Hi Becky,
Is it an oval pannier you are looking for?
Should it be straight at the top, or curved in the sides?
If you are going to make such a huge frame, i would suggest you to use another hoop wire. I have used Wissners krinoline wire in the heavy weights, but if your frame is going to be straight in top, it will not hold. I would suggest you to use a thick cane in stead. Jean Hunnisets panniers are good. If you want the french shape, the top hoop hangs two far down. I have altered the frame because i wanted it to be at elbow hight.

Bjarne
----- Original Message ----- From: "Becky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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I have to design a "Mother Ginger" costume for this Christmas play of the Nutcracker. I have many ideas from various sites. I see how to make the hoops atand out at different angles. I've thought about this since the first of December!!!! I work on it in my sleep. I've looked everywhere for a pattern to use but so far nothing is as large as I need. BUT some of the pictures I've found have been very helpful. Yours has helped me to see how to put it together. Any suggestions on how to make the underpinning hoops or farthingale that is 2-3 yards across? It has to be large for that character. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bjarne og Leif Drews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Hi,
I have to edit my webpage and take down some pictures, so in case some of
you woul like to se the progress in how i made this robe a la francaise with
lots of embroidery, now it is time.
In about 14 days i shall remove most of the pictures.
Page is here:
http://www.my-drewscostumes.dk/chenillestumpwork.htm
The dress is finished and are packed and send away tomorrow.

Bjarne






Leif og Bjarne Drews
www.my-drewscostumes.dk

http://home0.inet.tele.dk/drewscph/

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