In this case Beatrice, the problem was not with the mechanism but with the fact that the accrediting agency did not recognize the technical school you went to because they do not recognize technical schools as sources of higher education (as they are not) nor they recognize a foreign technical degree as equivalent to a national technical degree. It seems that you were able to get your bachelor equivalence and using it you got your ASCP certification. What I wrote referred to higher education equivalencies used as a certification route in this country and, as such, what I wrote is correct. René J.
--- On Tue, 2/17/09, Debrosse-Serra, Beatrice <beatrice.debrosse-se...@pfizer.com> wrote: From: Debrosse-Serra, Beatrice <beatrice.debrosse-se...@pfizer.com> Subject: RE: [Histonet] Overseas graduates To: rjbu...@yahoo.com, "Histonet" <histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu>, kimtourn...@yahoo.com Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 11:18 AM René, I hate to tell you, but it isn't as simple as you make it sound. The school I went to was a technical school, which was very specific. But since it wasn't a University, they didn't recognize my schooling and certificate and I would have to get my bachelors all over again. However, I did get certified here and at least have an HT and QIHC from the ASCP. So what you are saying is not totally correct. Beatrice DeBrosse-Serra Pathology Scientist Pfizer Global Research & Development CB4, 2150 10646 Science Center Drive San Diego, CA 92121 Phone# 858-622-5986 Fax# 858-678-8290 -----Original Message----- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Rene J Buesa Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 8:09 AM To: Histonet; kimtourn...@yahoo.com Subject: [Histonet] Overseas graduates This problem of overseas certified histotechs is simple to solve. The foreign graduate has to send his/her credentials and transcripts to one of several certifying agencies in the US that will analyze the curriculum, the competencies and will issue an "equivalence certificate" indicating what those foreign studies correspond to any from any US high studies institution. Any foreign graduate with a bachelor, master or PhD in a foreign university will be issued an equivalence as if the studies would have been completed here and that will qualify the foreign graduate to take his/her ASCP certification examination. It is absolutely unnecessary to study the same thing again here! René J. --- On Tue, 2/17/09, Kim Tournear <kimtourn...@yahoo.com> wrote: From: Kim Tournear <kimtourn...@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: [Histonet] uncertified techs in Histology To: "Histonet" <histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu> Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 9:53 AM I agree with the overseas tech issue...my experience at Ventana Medical allowed me to meet alot of well educated techs from across the ocean. What difference does it make where the education comes from, as long as the candidate is qualified to do the job? I think an ASCP certification should be obtained allowing the applicant to use his/her credentials, and a state license (if applicable) without having to go back for a degree they already have. We knew long before 2005, that the histology world was going in new directions and that a histotech would be required to be certified. I fear that at some point, hospitals will not hire any non-registered techs (of any kind). Just my 2 cents worth.... ~Kim Tournear ~HT (ASCP), QIHC (ASCP) Histology Supervisor Tucson Medical Center Tucson, AZ ~Don't let your life end before it begins~ OU Rocks!!!! --- On Mon, 2/16/09, Bernice Frederick <b-freder...@northwestern.edu> wrote: From: Bernice Frederick <b-freder...@northwestern.edu> Subject: RE: [Histonet] uncertified techs in Histology To: "'Larry Woody'" <slappyc...@yahoo.com>, histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Date: Monday, February 16, 2009, 7:28 AM Agreed. Kind of devalues one's education if there are uncertified techs. I also think that it's silly that techs from outside the US are sometimes forced to repeat their 4 years of college when they have the knowledge and the equivalency from wherever and can do the job better than some techs doing it for years. Bernice Bernice Frederick HTL (ASCP) Northwestern University Pathology Core Facility ECOGPCO-RL 710 N Fairbanks Court Olson 8-421 Chicago,IL 60611 312-503-3723 -----Original Message----- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Larry Woody Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 10:10 AM To: rjbu...@yahoo.com; Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Steven Coakley Subject: Re: [Histonet] uncertified techs in Histology This has been an ongoing issue for so many years in histology, I've always wanted to see a mandatory license in the field but that always starts a firestorm of controversy. If you have surgery, you certainly want a board certified surgeon to do it and same with the Pathologist that looks at the slides so wouldn't you want a certified tech doing the lab work as well? Larry A. Woody Seattle, Wa. ________________________________ From: Rene J Buesa <rjbu...@yahoo.com> To: Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Steven Coakley <sjchta...@yahoo.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 7:58:26 AM Subject: Re: [Histonet] uncertified techs in Histology A hospital that relies on uncertified techs to do histology work is motivated by the pursue of costs cuts (you can call it greed!) and shows total disregard for quality of work and patient care. They may end losing all those savings when settling a legal case. René J. --- On Wed, 2/11/09, Steven Coakley <sjchta...@yahoo.com> wrote: From: Steven Coakley <sjchta...@yahoo.com> Subject: [Histonet] uncertified techs in Histology To: Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Date: Wednesday, February 11, 2009, 9:55 AM Any thoughts or experiences with my fellow HT/HTL's(ASCP). What the big advantage do all these facilities think there gaining by going with unregistered techs, especially when theres always ongoing quality issues when theres so many trained certified HT looking for work? In my area of the country I can't believe how many Hospitals go this way. _______________________________________________ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet _______________________________________________ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet _______________________________________________ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet _______________________________________________ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet _______________________________________________ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet _______________________________________________ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet _______________________________________________ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet