I am in total agreement with both Richard and Felton here. Sorry Timothy if you are reading this but to me the bottom line is patient care. And in the end set-ups like this hurt patients. These "labs" and I'm using the term loosely are put in place to line the pockets of a small number of people at the top of a pyramid.
I guess someone will always work to put things like this together if there is a demand. But please realize, if this is what you're involved in, the reality is... ~ Questionable facilities - Cramming professional, OSHA legal and ergonomically correct lab operations into small office spaces is a poor idea at best. Proper plumbing, ventilation and lab space are serious considerations and fall by the wayside when these operations are put together. ~ Qualified personnel - All of us posting on this list understand the fact that qualified, competent Histology Lab personnel are in demand and difficult to find. The wage for qualified, competent technical expertise does not fit into the plans of the originators of these operations. ~ Proper equipment and instruments - While the aim of these operations is limited in scope, basic functional equipment and instruments are required. In the overall scheme of things, pathology is still a bargain. However, money must be spent to properly equip a competent working lab with modern instruments. I could go on but that makes the basic point. And Timothy, lest you think that I'm shooting from the hip I assure I am not. Like most people on this list, I am a serious, diligent professional. I have interviewed people from "pod" labs that have worked under horrible conditions. I am also aware of a "pod" lab trying to get off the ground that shouldn't have an ice cube's chance in hell. The plans for this lab do not have proper plumbing, ventilation or space and there is no equipment. While a position has been advertised I cannot think of a single tech, worth his or her salt, that would consider associating themselves with such an ill-conceived venture. One last point - don't forget Timothy, that one day you may be that patient. Or it may be your mother, sister, daughter, wife, son, friend...I'll stop there. Every block, every slide, every piece of tissue that I or any of my staff encounter is a precious patient...a human life. So trying to dumb everything down, cut corners and make a small number of people wealthy in the process is an irresponsible and utterly ridiculous risk. The professionals in our field have worked hard for a good number of years to come out of the basement spaces and after-thought little nooks and crannies and other poor facilities to do the highly skilled work this profession demands. I for one will never abide going backwards and I don't believe people of good conscience and humanity will either. Sincerely yours, Tom Jasper Thomas Jasper HT (ASCP) BAS Histology Supervisor Central Oregon Regional Pathology Services Bend, Oregon 97701 541/693-2677 tjas...@copc.net -----Original Message----- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Nails, Felton Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 12:57 PM To: 'Richard Cartun'; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Timothy Jay Subject: RE: [Histonet] GI, Uro, or Derm Path Lab Set Up Especially when these physician hire unqualified people to run these labs and flood the histonet with their uneducated questions. -----Original Message----- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Richard Cartun Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 2:29 PM To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Timothy Jay Subject: Re: [Histonet] GI, Uro, or Derm Path Lab Set Up We don't need anymore pathology laboratories. What we need is support of existing laboratories, especially hospital-based labs. GI and GU physicians are "Cherry-picking" the technical revenue that should be going to hospital labs. Let's reform health care; make it more efficient and less expensive. We don't need to be putting more money in clinicians' pockets. Richard Richard W. Cartun, Ph.D. Director, Histology & Immunopathology Director, Biospecimen Collection Programs Assistant Director, Anatomic Pathology Hartford Hospital 80 Seymour Street Hartford, CT 06102 (860) 545-1596 Office (860) 545-2204 Fax >>> Timothy Jay <tja...@yahoo.com> 2/4/2010 1:28 PM >>> For those needing help putting an in-office path lab together whether you are GI, Urology, or Derm please send me an email at tja...@yahoo.com or call me at 775-830-1591. I have a consulting business that specializes in putting these labs together. References provided upon request. 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