Research is a different area and not controlled by CAP, CLIA and other hospital 
licensing or accreditation organizations.  We are bound by the rules of these 
organizations and while I agree with you to a point.  We do need minimums for 
training and registration by recognized licensing bodies when patient tissue is 
being processed for histological examination.  I am sure no one thinks of this 
often however; there are medical legal issues with insurance we have that do 
not apply for research.  It is also clear that registration does not mean we 
don't have registered people who are not as good as they should be for 
excellent patient care.

I have worked in research and while I would not ever say the hiring of 
non-registered people is a problem for research.  It is often a specialty area 
that requires knowing more than routine Histology.   I have done plastics in 
research that could not ever be used in routine Histology due to the time 
factors and in some cases limited use with staining applications, especially 
IHC for some procedures.  Many other areas in research require more specialized 
training than would be used in a routine area.  I would also add some really 
great techs are in many phases of research.  I know MT who work in Histology 
and are not registered as the MT BS, overrides the HT requirement for many 
institutions.  

Many factors must be considered for both research and routine Histology that 
cover far more than just hiring registered people in certain areas of the 
laboratory.

Pam Marcum 


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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Emily Sours
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 8:20 AM
To: joelle weaver
Cc: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Unregistered HT

Do employers consider lab techs to be proficient enough? I've been doing ISH 
and immuno for 13 years, but I'm not certified as I do research.  Maybe there 
aren't a lot of lab techs out there? Just wondering since you might be missing 
someone awesome by hiring only certified people.

"By bitching and bitching and bitching, they could exhaust the drama of their 
own horror stories. Grow bored. Only then could they accept a new story for 
their lives. Move forward."

-Chuck Palahniuk, "Haunted"


On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 6:49 PM, joelle weaver <joellewea...@hotmail.com>wrote:

> All I have is a "histology assistant" description I put together. It 
> is mostly clerical, instrument up keep and other duties. My employer 
> does not hire uncertified techs- due to CLIA license, grossing, FISH & 
> molecular duties ( high complexity). I hope to be a clinical site 
> eventually, and then they will have to complete their certification 
> within one year -if they are hired on.
> If you think that will help, I can send it on.
>
>
>
>
> Joelle Weaver MAOM, HTL (ASCP) QIHC
>
> > Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 15:39:12 -0500
> > From: dels...@gmail.com
> > To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> > Subject: [Histonet] Unregistered HT
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm wondering if anyone can share a job description for an 
> > unregistered
> HT
> > position. I also need to know if unregistered HT's are allowed to 
> > cut frozen sections.  I know there is a limit to what they can do, 
> > especially where IHC and special staining are concerned, but I 
> > really don't know
> about
> > frozens, since it's a lot like regular microtomy, except for the H&E 
> > staining of the slide. I also understand that facilities might have 
> > different descriptions, but what I'm really looking for is what CAP
> allows
> > them to do.
> >
> > Thanks for your help,
> >
> > Deloris Carter, HT(ASCP)
> > SMMC
> > Shawnee, KS
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