Hi Greg, I use BONDS and Apex slides as well. What we do with tissue that 
washes (usually heavy tumor and some harsher stains like CD34) is leave the 
tissue unbaked at room temp for 12 hours and then bake at 60 degrees for 30 
minutes. I don't know if you are including your control tissue on the same 
slide (we do) but we also cut a separate slide with just patient sections and 
that seems to help with extra paraffin runoff from the control tissue 
underneath the patient tissue. We've been doing this successfully for years.
I hope this is helpful, I totally understand your frustration! 

Kari M Simeone

Histology/Immunohistochemistry Specialist Supervisor


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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Section adherence issues (IHC) (Walter Benton)
   2. Permanent/Full Time Histotech Job in Panama City, FL
      (Melissa Owens)
   3. New Lab Related Blog Post (Lester Raff MD)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 17:37:38 +0000
From: Walter Benton <wben...@cua.md>
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Subject: Re: [Histonet] Section adherence issues (IHC)
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Thanks. This is helpful information.

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Subject: RE: [Histonet] Section adherence issues (IHC)

We have had really good luck with both the TOMO and Millennia 2000 adhesion 
slides. We initially tried using the TOMO slides for everything (IHC, special 
stains, and H&E's), but found that there was too much background staining on 
the specials and H&E's. For IHC, the TOMO slides were great. We then switched 
to the Millennia 2000 for everything, and they have been working really well 
across the board. With regards to just IHC, I personally feel that the TOMO 
slides are better, but if you only want one type of glass in your lab, the 
Millennia 2000 are the way to go.

Matthew Hujet
Histology Technical Specialist
SSM Health St. Mary's Hospital - Madison
700 S. Park St.
Madison, WI 53715

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Subject: Re: [Histonet] Section adherence issues (IHC)

Greg,

We are running into a similar issue on the Biocare Nemesis platform and the 
support there suggest humidity to be the issue. Our sections stay adhered to 
the slides through depar, antigen retrieval, but appear to fall off during the 
staining process. It is not consistent. We are going to try some other slides 
and see if the issue persists. I'd be interested to hear your findings and 
resolution.


Walter Benton HT(ASCP)QIHC
Lab Operations Manager
Chesapeake Urology Associates
806 Landmark Drive, Suite 127
Glen Burnie, MD 21061




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Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 11:09 AM
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Subject: [Histonet] Section adherence issues (IHC)

Hi Folks,
I haven't been on here much lately but it is nice to know that we are all here 
for each other when needed!

My problem is section adherence during IHC staining. And it is not all of the 
time it is intermittent; so not all of the time and not on all slides when it 
does occur.

Background:
We have a Bond-III immunostainer and we use the Leica Apex charged slides for 
our IHC stains. We have no additives in our water baths. Our sections drain in 
a stand and then any trapped water under the section is either flicked or 
wicked away as needed prior to placing the slides in a rack in a
60 C oven for 30 mins prior to staining.  We do not do on board baking 
(primarily because on board baking is only 10 mins long and with the section 
lifting issue we want longer).

Some of the specimen types are more susceptible it would seem. Cervix LEEP 
specimens tend to be bad, we use a 4mm punch to obtain some of our control 
tissue and so the breast tissue we use for Myosin Heavy Chain seems to be a bad 
one and sometimes our ER/PR control sections (but not always). Fine needle 
cores where a lot of tumour is present tend to be bad (again not always).

We have tried baking longer, we turn ourselves inside out trying to get all of 
the water out from under the sections, we have tried charged slides from 
another manufacturer. I have looked at the HIER protocols and none are 
extraordinary in nature. We use very clean covertiles (no scratches or 
blemishes). Our specimens are fixed for 24hrs before processing. We use the 
same slides for Special Stains and don't have this issue there.

I need some new suggestions to try! All ideas welcome.
Cheers,
Greg

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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 19:59:14 +0000
From: Melissa Owens <meli...@alliedsearchpartners.com>
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Subject: [Histonet] Permanent/Full Time Histotech Job in Panama City,
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Hello All,

I have a full time/permanent position for a Histotech in Panama City, FL. This 
is a Monday-Friday Day Shift opportunity and I am looking for a long term 
permanent candidate. Please let me know if you are interested and I will 
provide more information. Thank you!

Melissa Owens
President, Laboratory Staffing
Allied Search Partners

Direct Line: 407.413.9117

Toll Free: 888.388.7571 ext. 102

F: 888.388.7572




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Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 11:43:46 +0000
From: Lester Raff MD <lr...@uropartners.com>
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Subject: [Histonet] New Lab Related Blog Post
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Good morning to all. The rains in Chicago have finally stopped.  Link for a lab 
blog post is below.



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Thanks,

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