It's a little tricky and usually brings in CLIA's definition of high complexity 
testing personnel and then the nuanced definition of testing.  As strange as it 
seems, most of what we do in histology is not actually testing until a 
pathologist reads it out and reviews it.

The way I read it, the only things in pathology that are actually high 
complexity testing that aren't performed exclusively by pathologists are 
grossing (ANP.11610) and QCing special stain/ISH/IHC slides (ANP.21395).  This 
can put some labs in a position where, even though a grandfathered histotech 
may be very capable at QCing stains and fully certified, he or she may not be 
able to do the QC for regulatory purposes.  Furthermore, the requirements to 
sit for the exam could be met without being CLIA high complexity testing 
compliant, so we are still pumping out new histotechs in this loophole.  I 
doubt it was intended that way, but there it is.

Other high complexity tasks include report review (ANP.29590), digital image 
analysis (ANP.23038), and circulating tumor cell analysis (ANP.29630) but those 
aren't an issue for our lab because we either don't do them or because our 
pathologists obviously do report review.

More directly to your point, I don't see anything in the requirements about 
histotechs doing or not doing frozens.  I also don't see anything about 
requiring histotechs to be certified at all for any reason other than your 
laboratory's preference.  In fact, you can have non-certified staff that have 
the high complexity testing education who are able to perform routine histology 
tasks that certified (particularly grandfathered) histotechs aren't allowed to 
do.

Hopefully someone with more knowledge will chime in because I'm sure I have a 
lot to learn about the ins and outs of this.




Andrew Dilts  HTL(ASCP)
Histo Supervisor, Laboratory Services
Phone: (417) 269-5021
andrew.di...@coxhealth.com
www.coxhealth.com



-----Original Message-----
From: Nancy Schmitt <nancy_schm...@pa-ucl.com>
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 3:12 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] frozen section/histo duties

Hello and Happy Monday-
Would you please share what your processes are for:

  1.  HT's cutting frozen under direct supervision of pathologist - do you do 
this?
     *   Now HT has changed and requires Associates degree - but previous would 
be grandfathered in  - correct?
  2.  Non- certified staff working in histology with supervision - anything 
they DON"T do?
CAP is our guideline and I am reading - want to make sure I am not overthinking 
this but not missing anything.........
Thoughts appreciated,
Nancy Schmitt HT, MLT(ASCP)
Pathology Support Services Manager





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