I think you got a good buy with Barbara's "middle aged" horn, whatever the price. Many owners would not sell a "middle aged" horn, thinking performance improves with usage (of course, allowing for need of a valve job). My 103 is probably vintage late 1940's, and it is a pleasure for all others who give it a try (it's now had two valve jobs that I know of).
The "Famous Maneuver" is not as famous as its name suggests, but it is widely practiced, to empty the first and second valve slides into the third. With keys one and two depressed, tilt the bell upwards so these slides drain into their rotors. Now simultaneously release keys one and two while depressing key three. This allows passage of the fluid in the first two rotors into the third slide as you now gently tilt the bell downward. Picture what's happening as you do it, and it will become easy to get the correct tilts and timing. Whether or not you have strings on your water keys, it reduces your slide pulling at least 2/3.
The reverse maneuver I described for emptying the slides back into the main tubing requires all three valves to be operated simultaneously.
Jim.
At 10:48 AM 02/21/03 -0500, you wrote:
At 04:26 PM 2/20/03 -0500, you wrote:At 02:05 PM 02/20/03 -0500, Barbara Burt wrote:. . .Then Jim wrote...
In a recent concert with my woodwind quintet, it took way too long to seek out and empty the spit between movements. This not only made me feel self-conscious but also annoyed my fellow players, who were anxious to keep the musical momentum going! . . .
On my horn (Alexander 103) I have three water keys stringed. (Note: All of the following depends on using the "Famous Maneuver" to drain valves 1 & 2 into the third valve slides beforehand.) One string circuit runs between the main F tuning slide key and the Bb third valve slide key. Pulling on this with my index finger while depressing the thumb and third valve empties the third Bb valve slide, and depressing nothing while pulling empties the F tuning slide. The leadpipe drain key is on a separate string which I actuate with my thumb (no cushioning sleeve needed - single key). This leaves the F slides to be emptied. They actually collect minimal water, and at the end of a movement, after emptying all other points, I simply do a reverse of the "Famous Maneuver" to empty the F key slides back into the main F tuning slide, where it can be emptied from that water key.
Happy plumbing, JIm.
Being that I bought her "middle aged" Alex 103, (which is a great horn, thanks again, Barbara!) I am very interested in perfecting the "Famous Maneuver" to remove water.Would you please go into more detail on the "Famous Maneuver"? When I bought Barbara's Alex, I added a water key on the leadpipe and that helps. I just got off the phone with fellow lister Bob Losin, we discussed this post and we may add some of the other water keys. It sounds interesting...
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