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Look at 2210 series. Salaries are from entry level to GS 14 My understanding is support of conversion to z Java needs 40 slots filled Might be filled internally but announced externally too I saw the layoff notices and thought maybe.... Always looking for help to help our stakeholders. Mike P ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html