I seem to recall that 69 was a popular choice for the window breakpoint ...
Chris Hoelscher Technology Architect, Database Infrastructure Services Technology Solution Services Humana Inc. 123 East Main Street Louisville, KY 40202 Humana.com (502) 476-2538 or 407-7266 -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Porowski, Kenneth Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 4:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] IRS - 60-Year-Old IT System Failed on Tax Day Due to New Hardware (nextgov.com) Now for those that didn't move to a 4 digit year to resolve Y2K but instead went to a window technique, how many of your current staff know what dates were used for the window so they can again fix the problem before it occurs. -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David L. Craig Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 4:26 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] IRS - 60-Year-Old IT System Failed on Tax Day Due to New Hardware (nextgov.com) In 1974, we considered it, but the cost of a byte of disk storage was enough to push the storage of each date's century toward the '90s. We fully expected the remediation would be needed but storage would be more affordable by then, which panned out. What everybody got wrong was expecting the relative costs of hardware and software to not change, but in fact they flipped--hardware became dirt cheap but software became very expensive. On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 7:46 PM, Gerhard Adam <gada...@charter.net> wrote: > It was discussed, but the general feeling was that those systems would > have been rewritten or replaced long before it became an issue. > > No one expected applications to be running 30-40 years after they were > first implemented. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Apr 20, 2018, at 12:25 PM, Lester, Bob <bles...@ofiglobal.com> wrote: > > > > > > I agree with both you and Gil. But, how many programmers in the > > 60s, > 70s, even 80s were thinking about Y2K? Sure, the really good ones > were, but what about the other 80%? > > > > ....and, Y2K came off without a hitch...(FSVO - "hitch") 😊 > > > > I love Fridays... > > > > BobL > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > > [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Porowski, Kenneth > > Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 1:20 PM > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: Re: IRS - 60-Year-Old IT System Failed on Tax Day Due to > > New > Hardware (nextgov.com) [ EXTERNAL ] > > > > That was due to lack of foresight by the programmer not due to the > > age > of the system. > > > > > > > > This email message and any accompanying materials may contain > proprietary, privileged and confidential information of CIT Group Inc. > or its subsidiaries or affiliates (collectively, “CIT”), and are > intended solely for the recipient(s) named above. 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