On Wednesday, 06/07/2006 at 09:22 ZE2, Kris Buelens 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Very carefully.  You can do a DIRM USER WITHPASS, or DIRM USER
> > NOPASS, receive it, copy it, modify it.
> 
> Do not perform this "trick" with the NOPASS option: the new directory 
will
> not have any useful passwords anymore.  And, even if you'd use RACF 
(where
> directory passwords no longer count) destroying all passwords may not be
> wise, surely not in my installation.

Is not wise in ANY installation.  In order to recover from ESM problems 
(any vendor) you need the CP directory password of the ESM server(s). 
Likewise, the designated system operator is permitted to logon when the 
ESM is down, but the CP password must be known.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

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