We have two production VM systems, 
plus a few others - small DR system, 
2nd level test system, 1st level LPAR 
test system.

I always build *one*, and then copy the 
required parts to other systems. For those
things that need to be generated differently, 
I have local PPF overrides/CNTL files that 
do the different builds, but all from the same
work system.(This is pretty much limited to 
ACI routines - with/without VM:Secure).

Shimon


On 8 Jun 2006 at 7:55, Phil Tully wrote:

> Alan Altmark wrote:
> 
> >On Wednesday, 06/07/2006 at 11:07 EST, Alan Ackerman 
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>That's good news. Perhaps it is time to re-examine our staunch 
> >>    
> >>
> >opposition
> >  
> >
> >>to PUT2PROD.
> >>
> >>Another problem with PUT2PROD that comes to mind is that we don't want 
> >>    
> >>
> >to
> >  
> >
> >>install VM on every system, we want to install it once (actually twice
> >>because of VPARS and VTAPE) and then copy it to all the other systems. 
> >>    
> >>
> >Can
> >  
> >
> >>PUT2PROD do that now that it no longer insists on forcing off userids?
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >Don't put the burden of multi-system maintenence on PUT2PROD's shoulders. 
> >You might be able to bend PUT2PROD to your will, but the design of the 
> >entire installation/service process is, as you imply, for a single system.
> >
> >I think people do things as you describe in order to avoid repetition and 
> >save time, both excellent goals. We're looking at ways to reach them and 
> >we're more than happy to hear how (and why!) people maintain their systems 
> >the way they do.
> >
> >Alan Altmark
> >z/VM Development
> >IBM Endicott
> >
> >  
> >
> Having come from a site with 3+ vm systems I can assure you we installed 
> and maintained once and distributed the updates to other systems.
> Another on this list (JIM S.) can provide the detail since he has been 
> handling that process for a number of years.  As Marcy points out the 
> "other" stuff such as CA, Velocity  etc has their own issues.
> 
> Phil
> Phil

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