Hello Mike, Alan, and others,

        Thanks,  I was hazy on step 4.   The paging area will be used
until the next z/VM IPL.   Good.  

        Now to find that new paging area. 

Ed Martin 
Aultman Health Foundation
330-588-4723
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
ext. 40441

> -----Original Message-----
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
> Behalf Of Mike Walter
> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 12:27 PM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: HCPCLS174E using VSE SA util tape
> 
> Ed,
> 
> All pages on your paging volume "go away" when you IPL anyway.  The
> easiest method might be:
> 1- Dedicate a whole new DASD to paging (paging and spool involve
> seldom-ending channel programs for good performance,   interrupting
those
> channel programs for other activity on the disk reduces system
> performance).  For example, let's use as the new volser: VMPG01 on
rdev
> 200
> 2- Attach rdev 200 to your ID at 200
> 3- Running CPFMTXA: LABEL 200 as VMPG01,
>    FORMAT that 200 from cylinder zero to the end, and
>    ALLOCATE it for only paging (I still prefer to allocate PAGE 0 as
PERM,
> and 1-END as PAGE).
> E.g. PERM 0 0
>      PAGE 1 END
> 3- Update your SYSTEM CONFIG to add the new DASD (maybe VMPG01 ?) as
> CP_Owned.
> 4- Now that you have a new page volume ready, you can get CP ready to
not
> use the old page space at the next IPL.
>    CP reads the allocation bit map only when the volume comes online,
so
> you can change it ahead of time.
>    - Link R/W to your 430RES and 430W03 DASD (you can define full-pack
> MDISKs to let you do that),
>    - run CPFMTXA to ALLOCATE the paging cylinders on both as PERM
space
> (do NOT format them!)
>      Only change the PAGE allocation to PERM.
> E.g. 430RES as PERM 257 390
>      430W03 as PERM 1802 1901
> 5- Schedule a SHUTDOWN REIPL
> 
> After the IPL you *may* want to CPFMTXA the old page cylinders on
430RES
> and 430W01 just to see if that causes I/O errors.  If so, you know who
to
> contact.  :-)
> 
> Mike Walter
> Hewitt Associates
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "Edward M. Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
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> 07/21/2006 10:38 AM
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> Re: HCPCLS174E using VSE SA util tape
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hello Alan,
> 
>                  I have been starting to see other messages that are
> leading me
> to actually believe that I have a bad disk.
> 
>                  Suddenly I can not logon MAINT without getting that
> message.
> (IPL 190).  IPL CMS works ok.
> 
> Ready; T=0.01/0.02 11:30:43
> q alloc page
>             EXTENT EXTENT  TOTAL  PAGES   HIGH    %
> VOLID  RDEV  START    END  PAGES IN USE   PAGE USED
> ------ ---- ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ----
> 430RES 0792    257    390  24120    767    829   3%
> 430W03 075C   1802   1901  18000    240    250   1%
>                           ------ ------        ----
> SUMMARY                    42120   1007          2%
> USABLE                     42120   1007          2%
> 
> 
>                  .
> 
> Could I
> 1) I can get a volume with only paging on it
> 
> 2) tell System Config that the new volume is first, re-ipl,
> 
> 3) do a q alloc page to ensure that the 430RES/430W03 page areas are
not
> being used.
> 
> 4) either change the allocation to remove the page areas from
> 430RES/430W03,
>                  or cpformat just those areas.
> 
> 
> Ed Martin
> Aultman Health Foundation
> 330-588-4723
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ext. 40441
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On
> > Behalf Of Alan Altmark
> > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 11:00 AM
> > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> > Subject: Re: HCPCLS174E using VSE SA util tape
> >
> > On Friday, 07/21/2006 at 10:33 AST, "Edward M. Martin"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >       I really thing it is something on the VSE/ESA system and
> creating
> > the sa
> > > tape.
> >
> > Ed, that's a CP message, not VSE, and it doesn't have anything to do
> with
> > the content of the tape.  CP is basically saying he can't run the
IPL
> > command.
> >
> > I suggest that you get another paging volume, CPFMTXA it and
allocate
> it
> > for paging, attach it to the system, *detach* all other paging
volumes
> > (DETACH ... FROM SYSTEM) and reformat them.  Then you can reverse
that
> > sequence and get things back where they belong, or just reipl.
> >
> > If you *still* have problems, then the game's afoot and you should
> contact
> > the support center (z/VM 4.4 and later only).
> >
> > Alan Altmark
> > z/VM Development
> > IBM Endicott
> 
> 
> 
> 
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