On Friday, 07/06/2007 at 11:50 AST, Mike Hammock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> Thanks Daniel!!   That is significant.
> The customer needs to have OS/390 available to support their customers, 
so
> the ability to run 2.10 on a z9 (as a zVM guest) is a major concern.
> And Alan A.....   Your information is welcomed also, but I understand 
that
> there is a difference between what IBM "supports" and what will run...
> For example, IBM does provide a 'patch' for VSE 2.3 to run on a z9, and 
it
> does work, but I'm sure that it is not 'supported' by IBM.  I also
> believe/understand that there are 'fixes' to allow 2.10 to run on a z9
> (under VM) although it would not be 'supported'...     Daniel's 
experience
> helps to confirm this belief...

Which is to say, it may or may not work.  That's built into the definition 
of "unsupported".  If memory serves, early z9s shipped with some I/O and 
crypto cards that were the same as those on the z990 (which is supported 
by OS/390 2.10).  Later z9s had new cards.  It will most likely be those 
newer cards that won't work with OS/390 2.10.  It's a real roll of the 
dice, but I guess folks running in these Officially Unsupported 
environments already know that and accept the risk.

I also find it very strange that there are generally available 
IBM-provided PTFs floating around that add the needed function.  It sounds 
more like some back alley code obtained from someone who has paid for an 
extended support contract.  But what do I know?  I'm not in the z/OS or 
VSE support organizations....

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

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