I'm being nitpicky.

z/VM runs very well on an IFL.

Tom Duerbusch
THD Consulting
(just addding in another penny)

>>> LOREN CHARNLEY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 7/6/2007 3:54 PM >>>
If you are trying to run an OS other than LINUX on an IFL, you will not
be successful, OS390 / zOS, etc. must be run on a standard processor. If
running on a ZFrame, you can only run in 31 bit mode. I don't know
anything about OS390 or zOS in particular but from the posts that I have
read so far, it looks like a hardware problem and you will need to find
a fix somewhere.

Just my .02 worth......

Loren Charnley, Jr.
IT Systems Engineer
Family Dollar Stores, Inc.
(704) 847-6961 Ext. 7043
(704) 708-7043
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-----Original Message-----
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of McKown, John
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 2:37 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 
Subject: Re: OS/390 as zVM 5.2 Guest on z9 ??

> -----Original Message-----
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard
> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 1:14 PM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 
> Subject: Re: OS/390 as zVM 5.2 Guest on z9 ??
> 
> 
> I would venture a bet that the error when trying to IPL an unsupported
> operating system in an IFL has never depended on something 
> buried in the
> operating system's ipl code. It is not that the O/S is IFL 
> aware. Quite
> the opposite, that the IFL is O/S aware, is the only way to 
> enforce the
> restriction with any assurance that it is being enforced. If it were
> buried in the ipl code of the O/S, it would be subject to 
> being cracked,
> probably with only minimal effort.
> 
> Regards, 
> Richard Schuh 

You could well be correct. Unless the code is a DIAG that must execute
correctly to set up something that z/OS needs in order to run. And said
DIAG on an IFL causes the "machine check" when executed on an IFL.

However, you are correct that I don't know. I do know, from reports,
that z/OS runs on Hercules/390. So Hercules implements the "whatever"
that z/OS needs. But I've never looked deeply enough in the Hercules
source code to see what that is. But I doubt that Hercules implements
the "let's see if it is z/OS and hard wait if so", which is what can
happen if Hercules/390 is not set up to run z/OS with a runtime
parameter.

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John McKown
Senior Systems Programmer
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