Thanks. I have: SORT_DIRECTORY= NO | YES SORT_BY_DEVICE_ADDRESS= NO | YES SORT_COMMENTS_WITH_STATEMENTS= NO | YES
I am going to try to create a scenario where the comments are relocated. Mike -----Original Message----- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Bohnsack Sent: February 11, 2008 12:23 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: How comments treated by DIRMAINT Michael--You can do a DIRM CMS L CONFIG* DATADVH * (DA. Mine, and I think that this is the standard case, is on the DIRMAINT 11F disk. Also I run with SORT_DIRECTORY= YES, SORT_COMMENTS_WITH_STATEMENTS= YES (should not matter because we do not have SYSSAFIN specified, but who knows), and SORT_BY_DEVICE_ADDRESS= NO. I don't have any problem with comments being relocated when I do a DIRM GET followed by DIRM REP. All comments stay where I put them. Jim Horlick, Michael wrote: > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------_=_NextPart_001_01C86CCF.63555168 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Hi, > > =20 > > Is there a command that can tell what these parameters are set to or do = > I need to check all the mdisks that DIRMAINT has access to. > > =20 > > I started this thread and what we want is simple. For our VSE machines = > what we want is WYSIWYG. When I want to do a 'DIRM REPLACE', DIRMAINT = > should replace the current source directory entry as given to it if = > there are no errors in it (how about having an 'ASIS' option?). =20 > > =20 > > I know sometimes adding a comment for a new minidisk is sometimes = > preserved in the source and sometimes I'll see the comment somewhere = > else in the directory entry. If I could find out the logic of how = > DIRMAINT does the shuffling, maybe I could follow its rule(s) in order = > to get the source looking the way I want. =20 > > =20 > > Thanks, > > =20 > > Mike=20 > > =20 > > ________________________________ > > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On = > Behalf Of RPN01 > Sent: February 11, 2008 11:31 AM > To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU > Subject: Re: How comments treated by DIRMAINT > > =20 > > The first question I have is, what do you both have your = > "SORT_DIRECTORY=3D" and "SORT_BY_DEVICE_ADDRESS=3D" parameters set to, = > in CONFIG DATADVH or it's minions? These may or may not be the issue. > > Second, someone mentioned comments taking space in the object = > directory... My impression / hope would be that comments would be = > stripped from the information before building the object directory, = > since there is no actual purpose for them there, and there isn't a = > convenient tool to take an object directory and turn it into a source = > directory. Are the comments actually left in the object directory? If = > so, MAINT is one of the worst offenders, leaving in the hundreds of = > links that it uses during the installation as comments. > > --=20 > Robert P. 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For our VSE machines what we want is WYSIWYG. When I want to do = > a ‘DIRM > REPLACE’, DIRMAINT should replace the current source directory = > entry as > given to it if there are no errors in it (how about having an = > ‘ASIS’ > option?). =A0<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = > style=3D'font-size: > 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = > style=3D'font-size: > 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I know sometimes adding a comment = > for a > new minidisk is sometimes preserved in the source and sometimes = > I’ll see > the comment somewhere else in the directory entry. If I could find out = > the > logic of how DIRMAINT does the shuffling, maybe I could follow its = > rule(s) in > order to get the source looking the way I want. = > =A0=A0<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = > style=3D'font-size: > 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = > style=3D'font-size: > 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p >= > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = > style=3D'font-size: > 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = > style=3D'font-size: > 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Mike <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = > style=3D'font-size: > 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> > > <div> > > <div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><font = > size=3D3 > face=3D"Times New Roman"><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> > > <hr size=3D2 width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter tabindex=3D-1> > > </span></font></div> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span lang=3DEN-US > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</sp a= > n></font></b><font > size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span lang=3DEN-US = > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> > <st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">The IBM z/VM Operating = > System</st1:PersonName> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On = > Behalf Of > </span></b>RPN01<br> > <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> February 11, 2008 = > 11:31 AM<br> > <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> = > IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU<br> > <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: How comments = > treated > by DIRMAINT</span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p> > > </div> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = > style=3D'font-size: > 12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D1 = > face=3DVerdana><span > style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>The first question I have = > is, what > do you both have your “SORT_DIRECTORY=3D” and > “SORT_BY_DEVICE_ADDRESS=3D” parameters set to, in CONFIG = > DATADVH or > it’s minions? These may or may not be the issue.<br> > <br> > Second, someone mentioned comments taking space in the object = > directory... My > impression / hope would be that comments would be stripped from the = > information > before building the object directory, since there is no actual purpose = > for them > there, and there isn’t a convenient tool to take an object = > directory and > turn it into a source directory. Are the comments actually left in the = > object > directory? If so, MAINT is one of the worst offenders, leaving in the = > hundreds > of links that it uses during the installation as comments.<br> > <br> > -- <br> > <font color=3Dblue><span style=3D'color:blue'>Robert P. = > Nix</span></font> > <= > font > color=3Dteal><span style=3D'color:teal'>Mayo Foundation = > </span></font> > .~. <font = > color=3Dteal><span > style=3D'color:teal'> <br> > RO-OE-<st1:Street w:st=3D"on"><st1:address w:st=3D"on">5-55 > = > &= > nbsp;200 > First Street SW</st1:address></st1:Street></span></font> > /V\ <br> > <font color=3Dteal><span style=3D'color:teal'>507-284-0844 > <st1:place = > w:st=3D"on"><st1:City > w:st=3D"on">Rochester</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st=3D"on">MN</st1:State> = > <st1:PostalCode > w:st=3D"on">55905</st1:PostalCode></st1:place> </span></font>/ ( ) \ = > <font > color=3Daqua><span style=3D'color:aqua'> <br> > </span></font>----- > &= > nbsp; & n= > bsp; &n b= > sp; &nb s= > p; ^^-^^ > <br> > <font color=3Dolive><span style=3D'color:olive'>"In theory, theory = > and > practice are the same, but </span></font><font > color=3Dmaroon><span style=3D'color:maroon'>“Join the story... = > Ride > Ural.”<br> > </span></font><font color=3Dolive><span style=3D'color:olive'>in = > practice, theory > and practice are different." <br> > </span></font><br> > <br> > <br> > <br> > On 2/11/08 9:07 AM, "Colin Allinson" = > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D1 face=3DVerdana><span = > style=3D'font-size:9.0pt; > font-family:Verdana'><br> > </span></font><font size=3D2 face=3DVerdana><span = > style=3D'font-size:10.5pt; > font-family:Verdana'>I have just been doing some checking because we = > don't seem > to have this problem of comments moving around within the directory = > entry. <br> > </span></font><font size=3D1 face=3DVerdana><span = > style=3D'font-size:9.0pt; > font-family:Verdana'><br> > </span></font><font size=3D2 face=3DVerdana><span = > style=3D'font-size:10.5pt; > font-family:Verdana'>Initially, I thought this was because we use = > special local > procedures that interface with DIRMAINT but I just tried some vanilla = > GET's > & REPL's without any movement of comments at all. <br> > </span></font><font size=3D1 face=3DVerdana><span = > style=3D'font-size:9.0pt; > font-family:Verdana'><br> > </span></font><font size=3D2 face=3DVerdana><span = > style=3D'font-size:10.5pt; > font-family:Verdana'>I guess this must be some DIRMAINT configuation = > item that > causes the difference for us, but I am not sure = > which.</span></font><font > size=3D1 face=3DVerdana><span = > style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana'> <br> > <br> > </span></font><font size=3D2 face=3DVerdana><span = > style=3D'font-size:10.5pt; > font-family:Verdana'>Note: Comments DO get repositioned when creating a = > new > directory entry.<br> > </span></font><b><font size=3D1 color=3D"#1a61a9" face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#1A61A9;font-weight:bol d= > '><br> > Colin Allinson<br> > </span></font></b><b><font size=3D1 face=3DArial><span = > style=3D'font-size:7.5pt; > font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Technical Manager - VM Systems = > Support<br> > </span></font></b><font size=3D1 color=3D"#666666" face=3DArial><span > style=3D'font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#666666'>Operating = > Systems > Services<br> > Amadeus Data Processing GmbH<br> > T: +49 (0)8122 43 4975<br> > F: +49 (0)8122 43 3260<br> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]<br> > </span></font><u><font size=3D1 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span = > style=3D'font-size: > 7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>www.amadeus.com</span></font></u><fo n= > t > size=3D1 face=3DVerdana><span = > style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana'> <a > href=3D"http://www.amadeus.com/";><http://www.amadeus.com/></a> = > <br> > <br> > <br> > <br> > IMPORTANT - CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE - This e-mail = > is > intended only for the use of the individual or entity shown above as = > addressees > . 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