I also would not create another id. 
Just create new MAINT mdisks, do DDR copies and then flip flop the
mdisks in MAINT's directory and DIRM REPLACE.  We use DIRMAINT.   

-----Original Message-----
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Kris Buelens
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 11:09 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Moving User Maint's minidisks.

Why an extra user?  Just use MAINT, and change the addresses.  I'd use
the password fields to tell which is which, for example
  MDISK A190 3390 nnn mmm oldvol RR OLD190 TOREMOVE yyyymmdd
  MDISK 0190 3390 kkk mmm newvo RR ALL
And, if you have an ESM, the passwords on the MDISK records don't count
anymore, so you can then also store some information on the 190 MDISK
record.

2008/6/27 Dave Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi, Howard.
>
> No, there is no effect on the CMS saved segments...they are only 
> effected if you change the their contents, not just their location.
>
> Howard Rifkind wrote:
>>
>> One addition question:
>>  Doesn't all of this (19E & 19D) have some effect on the saved 
>> segments for CMS?
>>
>>>>> Dave Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 6/27/2008 9:52 AM >>>
>>
>> Hi, Howard.
>>
>> Try the following:
>>
>> 1) create another VM user id with the proper privileges. Call it, 
>> say, MAINTX.
>> 2) create the new MAINT mindisks on the new volume,using your 
>> favorite directory manager tools.
>> 3) logo off of MAINT
>> 4) from MAINTX, link to both the old MAINT's minidisks, and the new 
>> minidisks on the new volume.
>> 5) do a DDR from each old minidisk to the new one.
>> 6) update all of the other user directory entries to point to the new

>> MAINT minidisk locations, and bring the directory online.
>>
>> It will not matter that other users have links to MAINT's old 
>> minidisks, as these links should be r/o only. As users log off and 
>> back on again, they will pick up the new location for MAINT's 
>> minidisks. When the last user using the old minidisk location logs 
>> off, you can then reclaim that DASD space for other uses.
>>
>> No shutdown and no IPL required.
>>
>> Good luck.
>>
>> Howard Rifkind wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I have to move user maint's minidisk to a new volume.  Problem is 
>>> that there isn't either a first level or second level system here I 
>>> could use to do this and a good number of other logged on users who 
>>> can't be shut down have links to maint's minidisks to say the least 
>>> is the 19E & 19D.
>>>
>>> Management says no shutting down VM and no IPL.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>>>
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