You do indeed do a pretty good job. It is just that it sometimes helps
to have a titled individual press the argument.

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark
> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 7:38 PM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: SECUSER
> 
> On Tuesday, 08/19/2008 at 07:25 EDT, "Schuh, Richard" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > Is there some good reason why it works like this? It would be more 
> > consistent if the things that are set to be trapped by IUCV or SMSG 
> > were treated the same in all cases. After all, if it is OK for the 
> > machine to process the messages in most cases, why is it not OK in 
> > this one instance? I understand, and now share, your grudge.
> 
> I could understand the CONSOLE-based SCIF as having this 
> bizzare-o behavior, I suppose, but SET SECUSER/OBSERVER 
> probably would have been well-served to include an option for 
> the watcher to decide whether you get
> a) SET SECUSER <userid> * PITA
>     the message instead of it going to *MSG
> b) SET SECUSER <userid> * SNIFFER
>     an annotated message AND it goes to *MSG
> c) SET SECUSER <userid> * 
>     only messages not trapped by *MSG (as the Gods intended)
> 
> For those times when you want different things.
> 
> > This is one of those things that may be BAD, but has been 
> around for 
> > so long that it probably can't be fixed without upsetting a 
> lot of users.
> > (For the uninitiated, BAD is an acronym for Broken As Designed.)
> 
> I remember many heated arguments during VM/ESA 1.0 
> development. I also remember losing.  (I had just started by 
> stint in System Test.)  Everyone KNOWS that the Prime 
> Directive should apply to SCIF.  Watching a server should not 
> change its behavior.  It makes debugging REXECD a pain. 
> <grump>  See "Grudge".
> 
> > Has there been a replacement assigned to take over the 
> Ombudsman role
> since
> > Lyn Hadley held the post.
> 
> I like to think that those of us who hang out here do a 
> pretty good job, 
> even if no one has the formal title.   :-)
> 
> Alan Altmark
> z/VM Development
> IBM Endicott
> 

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