What is wrong with using CPFMTXA nnnn to format and allocate your VM volumes. Most Modern DASD subsystems are doing the basic formatting of the DASD volumes and all that is needed on VM is to format cylinder 0 and Allocate the volume as all PERM. Then format each individual minidisk as needed. If you need CP OWNED areas, Make sure you format all these areas using CPFMTXA. Larry
-----Original Message----- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Robert J McCarthy Sent: Wed 10/15/2008 8:31 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DF/DSS backup of z/VM volumes Scott, The ICKDSF example that you have supplied places a standard OS vtoc on the volume. We do the same zOS initialization here. We then run a CPVOL under vm to initialize the volume. With the exception of vm sysres, spool, page, 1 shared volume and swap; all of our vm volumes are used for linux. In the USER DIRECT I allocate all linux volumes/mini disks at cylinder 1, so that I preserve the OS vtoc; otherwise linux will overwrite the OS vtoc. I don't know if that is related to your problem. Bob ________________________________ From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Rohling Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 6:33 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DF/DSS backup of z/VM volumes Thanks, Larry and Robert! Since those jobs look pretty much like the job we are running here - I'm wondering if these volumes are initialized by z/OS first before giving them to z/VM? Here, it seems we are having to do some things from z/OS before we can label them on z/VM.. Here's the JCL they use: //STEP01 EXEC PGM=ICKDSF,REGION=8M,PARM=NOREPLYU //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSIN DD DATA INIT UNIT(650A) VERIFY(SK650A) VOLID(SK650A) VTOC(0000,01,01) NIX Since I'm a z/OS idiot (that's a pre-newbie) and don't really speak VTOC - I don't know exactly what the above is doing and why it's needed for DF/DSS to backup the z/VM volumes. Thanks again! Scott Rohling On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 8:50 AM, Robert J McCarthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Scott, We backup our zVM volumes from zOS using DF/dss. The following are the control cards that we use : DUMP INDDNAME(VOLUME) - OUTDDNAME(TAPE) TOL(IOERROR) OPT(4) - CPVOLUME TRACKS(0,0,13299,14) ADMIN Bob ________________________________ From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Rohling Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 10:46 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: DF/DSS backup of z/VM volumes At my current location, DF/DSS on z/OS is being used to backup the z/VM volumes, including Linux guest volumes.. On some of the volumes, the following occurs: ADR307E (004)-OPENCL(11), Unable to open volume xxxxxxx, 16 This is indicating an invalid VTOC from what I can tell.. We are using ICKDSF CPVOL to initialize/label the disks on z/VM. Is there something special outside of ICKDSF that needs to be done so that DF/DSS can backup the volume? I know this is the z/VM mailing list - but hoping some of you may have similar requirements and some ideas. I heard a rumor of some dataset being written to 4 tracks of cylinder 0 .. but unconfirmed. Thanks! Scott Rohling