Encryption should be the responsibility of the backup/restore product.  IBM 
already has encryption hardware on the machine.  VM:Backup exploits it today.  
I don't know about other products.

                                                       Dennis

"A good plan, violently executed now, is better than a perfect plan next 
week.."  -- General George S. Patton


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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf 
Of Mike Walter
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Subject: Re: [IBMVM] Using DVD to restore an existing z/VM?

Having read multiple media reports of companies losing tapes containing 
confidential information, are you sure you just want to put your DASD 
backups on a physically-tiny thumb drive?  I lost my first 16G thumb drive 
within months even though I was pretty careful with it (having paid out of 
pocket for it a year ago). 

Most people don't have 3480, 3490, or 3590 tape drives sitting around to 
read company data.  Most people _do_ have PC's with USB ports, even though 
trying to figure out whatever format a 3390 dump might be in would be 
quite a challenge.  But it would still be a matter of getting your 
security officer to sign off on something s/he doesn't really understand.

If you still think it's a good idea (and it *does* have merit), "do you 
want encryption with that order"?    :-)

Any other considerations to discuss before making recommendations to IBM?

Mike Walter
Hewitt Associates
Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily 
represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates.
 



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I think what we really need is the ability of the HMC to use a USB as an
input device (e.g. be able to IPL a standalone program off of a USB
stick, and have a program like DDR use the USB stick as an input or
output device), and perhaps the ability of z/VM to read AND write to the
USB so that we can write iplable decks and DDR content there.

If a vendor (IBM or otherwise) wants to further exploit that capability
with products that make it easier, so much the better.  But the "basic"
ability to do I/O to the device via the HMC and OS are what I'd be
looking for.

-Mike

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Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 10:56 AM
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On Friday, 06/19/2009 at 08:27 EDT, "McKown, John" 
<jmck...@healthmarkets.com> wrote:

> And, from what I've seen, IBM does not like to give some things out to
> customers because it "freezes" what IBM can do in the future. Backward

> compatability is wonderful for customers and a royal pain for vendors
as 
it can 
> impact innovation. I wonder when/if Linux will ever suffer from the
"can't 
> change that, the customers would revolt" syndrome.

That's true, but it goes even deeper.  Backup/Restore is "vendor space,"

including IBM's own offerings.   We can't do things in the base product
or 
give away things that would negatively affect the value of such
software. 
But that's all stuff that gets sorted out when the actual requirement is

analyzed by product planners and we understand what technology is needed

and how it is best delivered.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott






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