From: McKown, John
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 12:11 PM
To: McKown, John
Subject: RE: Duplicate hipersocket device addresses

Well, I'm a idiot. I didn't notice that z/OS was running in an LPAR, not z/VM. 
Sorry for the stupid remark.

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From: McKown, John
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 12:08 PM
To: 'The IBM z/VM Operating System'
Subject: RE: Duplicate hipersocket device addresses

Why bother with hipersockets? Why not just use the z/VM equivalent, the "guest 
LAN"?

http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/HCSC9B31/1.2.1.4

<quote>

A guest LAN represents a simulated LAN segment that can be connected to 
simulated network interface cards. There are two types of LAN segments: 
OSA-Express and zSeries HiperSockets. Each guest LAN is isolated from other 
guest LANs on the same system (unless some member of one LAN group acts as a 
router to other groups).

</quote>

Or did I miss something and this is what you are doing and having problems with?

John McKown
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf 
Of Mark Pace
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 12:02 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Duplicate hipersocket device addresses

Oh, okay.  My z/OS systems in LPARS work fine with Hipersockets.  The z/OS 
systems that are z/VM guest systems, not so much.

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 12:19 PM, O'Brien, Dennis L 
<dennis.l.o'br...@bankofamerica.com<mailto:dennis.l.o%27br...@bankofamerica.com>>
 wrote:

The z/OS systems are in separate LPAR's.



                                                 Dennis O'Brien



My computer beat me at chess, but it was no match for me in kickboxing.



From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
[mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU<mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU>] On Behalf Of 
Mark Pace
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 05:57
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU<mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU>
Subject: Re: [IBMVM] Duplicate hipersocket device addresses



I'm impressed that you have it intermittently working.  I've never gotten a 
Hipersocket connection in z/OS as a VM guest to work.  One of my colleagues is 
working with IBM on this problem.

On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 7:45 PM, O'Brien, Dennis L 
<dennis.l.o'br...@bankofamerica.com<mailto:dennis.l.o%27br...@bankofamerica.com>>
 wrote:

We're starting to test hipersockets between Linux guests on z/VM and z/OS 
systems in separate LPAR's.  z/OS is having intermittent trouble pinging one of 
the four Linux guests, but is fine with the other three.  All four Linux guests 
have no trouble pinging z/OS.  Someone suggested that the device addresses used 
have to be unique among all the LPAR's.  E.g. if z/OS in LPAR 1 allocates 
FC00-FC02, then I shouldn't allocate real FC00-FC02 on z/VM in LPAR 2 to a 
Linux guest, but should start with FC03 or FC04.  I've never heard of such a 
restriction, and the source of the advice is suspect.  Is there such a 
restriction?  I found a Redbook, "e-Business Intelligence: Data Mart Solutions 
with DB2 for Linux on zSeries", SG24-6294-00, that used the same addresses on 
z/OS in one LPAR and a Linux guest in another LPAR.  Note that the z/OS TCP/IP 
configuration doesn't specify UCB's, just CHPID numbers, but z/OS allocates the 
lowest three UCB's on the CHPID.

If the device addresses aren't the problem, what else should I look at?  The 
TCP/IP configurations on the Linux guests are identical, except of course for 
the IP address.  The intermittently-working guest has an IP address that ends 
in ".1".  I know that ".1" addresses are customarily used for routers, but 
there are no routers in this configuration.

                                                 Dennis O'Brien

My computer beat me at chess, but it was no match for me in kickboxing.



--
Mark Pace
Mainline Information Systems
1700 Summit Lake Drive
Tallahassee, FL. 32317



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Mark Pace
Mainline Information Systems
1700 Summit Lake Drive
Tallahassee, FL. 32317

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