(I use MAINT too much......)

If your SRM STORBUFF values are as you say, then STORBUFF is unlikely to be causing the problem, although still possible. The next time the problem occurs, do the
CP IND
and check for an Eligible list. If the E3 numbers are non-zero, then try raising the STORBUFF values further, as Davd suggested (300% 300% 300%).

Mike
----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Tate" <daniel.t...@gmail.com>
To: <IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: CP unresponsive on certain guests


CP Q ALLOC PAGE gives me "invalid option - alloc".

I didnt set the SRM variables; the consultant who initially came in to
set this up might have.


On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Mike At HammockTree
<m...@hammocktree.us> wrote:
Yeah, that is probably where he needs to end up Dave, but I'm a little
hesitant to recommend the 300% for Q3 without feeling more comfortable about
his paging subsystem... Moving a couple of large guests from the E-list to
in-Q could cause a increase in paging that he may or may not be configured
to handle.

Mike
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Jones" <d...@vsoft-software.com>
To: <IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: CP unresponsive on certain guests


Actually, Mike, he may be better off (a bit, at least) by setting
STORBUFF 300 300 300.

On 09/16/2010 09:58 AM, Mike At HammockTree wrote:

Since the STORBUF setting is exactly the values I suggested, I suspect
you applied the
SET SRM STORBUFF 300% 250% 200%
prior to doing the
Q SRM

With the current setting for STORBUFF, are you still experiencing the
problem?

Also, on a related note, what does your zVM paging system look like?
The output of
CP Q ALLOC PAGE
will provide the information

Mike
----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Tate" <daniel.t...@gmail.com>
To: <IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: CP unresponsive on certain guests


Output of Q SRM

q srm
IABIAS : INTENSITY=90%; DURATION=2
LDUBUF : Q1=100% Q2=75% Q3=60%
STORBUF: Q1=300% Q2=250% Q3=200%
DSPBUF : Q1=32767 Q2=32767 Q3=32767
DISPATCHING MINOR TIMESLICE = 5 MS
MAXWSS : LIMIT=9999%
...... : PAGES=999999
XSTORE : 0%
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 09:49:05


On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Dave Jones <d...@vsoft-software.com>
wrote:

Hi, Daniel.

The answer to your first question is to use the CP FORCE command (HELP
CP FORCE will tell you all about it.) The VM user id issuing the FORCE
command needs to have privilege class A as well. Usually this is done
from either MAINT or OPERATOR.

The answer to your second question is a bit more difficult, I'm afraid.
As Marcy has already suggested, what does a Q SRM command show? My first guess would be that your SLES11 guest is falling into Q3 and never given
an opportunity to run.

To find out *why* the guest is not able to run, you need the services of
a good z/VM performance monitor.....IBM offers the Performance Monitor
(it comes bundles with z/VM, but it's an extra cost offering) and
Velocity Software (http://www.velocity-software.com/) has a very good
suite of products as well. IMHO it' practically impossible to run a
modern production grade z/VM-zLinux system without a good performance
monitor to help solve issues like the one your having now.

On 09/15/2010 05:14 PM, Daniel Tate wrote:

We're starting to run apps on the servers now. From time to time a
guest will become unresponsive - to be more precise, ,the CP will not
respond to commands, and neither will the guest OS (SLES11). not
even #CP LOGOFF is acknowledged. from another login, CP INDIIC LOAD
shows no appreciable load.

Two questions from this:

1) how would I force a logoff of a user from another user? Is this
possible?
2) if we are not paging and the IFLs are not loaded (2-3% utilization
as a matter of fact) what could the bottleneck be?


--
Dave Jones
V/Soft Software
www.vsoft-software.com
Houston, TX
281.578.7544



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V/Soft Software
www.vsoft-software.com
Houston, TX
281.578.7544



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