[please, let's snip those posts to reasonable size, eh?] On Monday, 11/15/2010 at 09:41 EST, George Henke/NYLIC <george_he...@newyorklife.com> wrote: > The last itme in Doug's list is precisely the point. > > HLASM *IS* needed to create a Production IODF from a source IOCP on z/VM.
I think I see the point of confusion. IOCP does not use HLASM. However, if you want to take an existing IOCP deck and migrate to *HCD* (CBDSMIGR), then you will need HLASM, as it is used *by HCD* to create an initial IODF. Once migrated, or if you build your configuration manually in HCD, you don't need HLASM. That said, I recommend that you purchase a high-level assembler from IBM or Dignus. You never need one until it's Really Really Important. And you won't discover that until you have an emergency. But then it is too late. You also have to realize that "required" can be a misleading term. Example: ISPF is technically not *required* to run zSecure. Yeah, right. You *could* run that way, but who *would*? "Penny wise, pound foolish." Alan Altmark z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 alan_altm...@us.ibm.com IBM Endicott