Why isn't the Internet and 3D technology used for the IETF meetings ?
The Next Generation IPv8 Internet has that. Why is the IPv4 Internet
stuck in the stone ages ?

All of the technology is in place and Address Space is FREE.

2047 IPv8 Blocks have been FREEly allocated to IN-ADDR.<TLD> managers.
http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/130dftmail/unir.txt

On October 25, 2001 Microsoft will launch Windows XP which supports IPv8
Addressing. Companies like New.Net are making it possible for people to
register
IN-ADDR.<TLD> names. Companies like TuCows are helping to break down
the .COM monopoly with .INFO names.
http://www.IN-ADDR.INFO

The .BIZ Community is growing. It is time to build a new Internet based on
fair IP allocations. The Proof-of-Concept work on the IPv4 Internet can
continue,
but true pioneers need to move on. The technology is now in place to route
around
the I* organizations, "It Seeks Overall Control".
http://www.dot-biz.com/Registry/ProofConcept/index.html

Do you use a 2002:<IPv4>:0000 prefix ?
http://www.dot-arizona.com/IPv8/IPv4/
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/ietf/Current/msg12213.html

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete Resnick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: participation in IETF meetings


> On 10/23/01 at 9:49 AM -0400, RJ Atkinson wrote:
>
> >Many have been the meetings where folks who want to actively
> >participate in that meeting are unable to get in or unable to sit
> >down.
>
> I'm sorry, but I really think this is a problem with the
> person/persons chairing the meeting. If you are the chair of a
> working group whose meeting room is too small, you've got some
> choices:
>
> 1. If this happened in the past, you need to ask for a bigger meeting
> room. However, I understand this is not always possible.
>
> 2. Before your WG meeting, ask on the mailing list (which all active
> participants should be reading anyway) for all people who are
> planning on attending the meeting and actively participating to send
> you a piece of e-mail. Count. When you get to the room at the
> meeting, count off that many seats in the front rows. Add 10 for
> useful IESG/IAB members. Add a bunch if you know your WG is going to
> have cross-area interest where some people will be attending who
> don't subscribe to the WG list. Cordon off the section with some
> paper signs which read "ACTIVE PARTICIPANTS ONLY". No, it won't stop
> everyone, but it will help things.
>
> 3. If people are blocking the door during the meeting, be a traffic
> cop. Go to the door and say, "If you are staying, move in to the
> opposite side of the room away from the door. Otherwise, leave." The
> area behind where the chair usually sits is a fine place to stick
> people. If it gets totally out of hand, you may have to conduct the
> meeting by standing in the door; people who are just loafing hate
> sitting right next to the chairperson anyway.
>
> 4. (Up on soapbox again) Do not allow lecture-style presentations in
> your WG meeting, or at the very least do not let anyone present
> introductory material which could be posted to the list. These kinds
> of things encourage people to come to the meeting to try to learn.
> That's not why we're having these meetings. There should be NO NEW
> INFORMATION presented at WG meetings. If at least an introduction to
> the topic has not been written up and posted to the list, discussion
> of that topic should not be allowed in the WG meeting. The content of
> a WG meeting should be without surprise.
>
> Personally, I think this is a fine idea for BOFs too: You're posting
> an agenda before the meeting anyway; make sure any needed information
> is written up and posted before the meeting and make sure that the
> agenda has URLs for that information. Now, I understand that BOFs are
> in a somewhat different position and sometimes there's going to have
> to be presentation of new material in BOF meetings, but that needn't
> always be the case. WGs, of course, have no excuse.
>
> pr
> --
> Pete Resnick <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>

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