On Nov 15, 6:58 pm, Bruce Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Nov 15, 2008, at 3:26 PM, Al Poulin wrote:

> > I had gone into Admin to install a kids' game.  This was a drag to the
> > Macintosh HD and then I dragged to the Applications folder.  For the
> > first time since April, I ran Repair Disk Permissions which reported:
> > 2008-11-13 15:49:23 -0500: Permissions differ on "private/var/log/
> > secure.log", should be -rw------- , they are -rw-r----- .

> Why did you do this? Nothing changed on your machine that would  
> require RP.

Only because of the failure of the first drag install to put the game
into the Applications folder.  Also, because I had not run it for
seven months.  I've had another app, Reunion,  go directly into the
Applications folder when first dragged to Macintosh HD.
>
> >  I launched Console, highlighted "secure.log" and got a message saying I
> > had no permission to see the log.
>
> That's because Repair Permissions borked the file.>
>
> >  Still in Guest and reinserting the DVD with the C key
> > down, I got the DVD installer window for the first time, but the
> > Macintosh HD was still the boot disk.
>
> Your keyboard is acting up. This has happened to me a few times with  
> the new keyboards, but I thought that since I was using them on older  
> systems they weren't properly recognized. I got around that by  
> sticking an old KB on and restarting,.

Oh, oh, I'm using the old white keyboard A1048 because the new flat
key board that comes with this aluminum iMac does not tell my fingers
where they are.  I should have retrieved the new one while
troubleshooting.
>
> > What happened?  Why did the passwords stop working?
>
> I think you had a major keyboard fart, possibly
>
> When Permissions "Repair" changed it to -rw------- that meant only  
> root could read the file. An admin users rights to read the file  
> derive from the group permissions, and since the group now had no  
> rights, you couldn't read the file.

You've thrown a great deal of light on obscurity, thank you.
>
> This had NOTHING to do with the passwords being messed up..something  
> else happened to cause that, and I'm not sure what...I've never run  
> into this problem before.

So the password glitch is due to the keyboard or possibly the Repair
Permissions itself?

Al Poulin
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