Hi Joe,

Joe Touch wrote:
Hi, Hannes,

I appreciate the idea of a 'ping' to the group. I also appreciate that
everyone has their area of focus, and not all things brought to a WG
receive the attention that's needed to move them forward.

Agree.

IETFers have discussed incentive systems to encourage people to read
things that 'need to be reviewed', but let's not discuss that here.

Certainly a complicated subject.

Until we have that or an alternative - in the absence of positive
feedback - items should not move forward in a WG based on silence as
implicit approval.
So far this issue is non-blocking. I just fear that this issue will surface again during IETF Last Call.

If there is an absence of positive community support - either explicit,
or implicit by the community's lack of interest and silence - IMO, the
best path forward is to *revert* an item to individual submission, even
if it's on the WG charter.
There is another discovery mechanism, namely based on DHCP, that is pretty uncontroversial. I believe that it will progress quite smoothly in the group. Hence, the HELD specification itself would not be blocked since there is this other discovery mechanism. I do, however, believe that it is important to consider real world constraints that might slow down the deployment of certain mechanisms. If there is a way todo something about them then (in my believe) we should be looking at them.

Ciao
Hannes

Joe

Hannes Tschofenig wrote:
My mail was a new (and different) attempt to receive some feedback.
So far, didn't work. Just bad luck.

Ciao
Hannes

Joe Touch wrote:
Hannes Tschofenig wrote:
Hi all,

I haven't received concerns regarding the suggested discovery approach.
May I assume from the lack of feedback that the suggested approach is
reasonable?
I have seen this sort of conclusion claimed before, and it is incorrect.

Silence is not a hum in favor.

I don't have a position on this per se, but if nobody can step forward
and claim this is a reasonable solution, all we have is 'lack of
feedback', not 'consensus'.

Joe

...
In short, the current proposal (see
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-thomson-geopriv-lis-discovery-02.txt;
ignoring Section 2 which defines the DHCP portion) essentially does
the following:

* Discover the public IP address of the end point
* Perform a reverse DNS lookup to learn the domain
* Lookup the LIS for that domain
* Contact the LIS




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