below... Andrew White wrote: > > As the originator of section 4.8, I'll speak to this one... > > Fred Templin wrote: > > > > > 4.8 I'm afraid I couldn't understand this scenario at all. When the > > > two sites connect, do they essentially merge into a single, > > > multi-homed site? > > > > I believe the answer to this is yes, and I believe Brian Haberman > > also expressed concerns about such scenarios since they touch on > > site multi-homing. (My answer to Brian is that we are not trying > > to re-create RFC 3582 in this document.) What you would suggest > > in terms of this block of text? > > I don't think it's possible to completely divorce local addressing from > multi-homing, unless we want to go down the NAT path (any takers? No, I > thought not).
Agreed. It would be rather tragic to define a new form of address to meet the requirements in this draft, and another very similar new form of address to meet multihoming requirements. It should be a goal to avoid this, and it needs to be a shared goal of the ipv6 and multi6 WGs. So I don't think it's possible to eliminate mention of multihoming from this draft, but it should be mentioned mainly for this reason. Brian C > > One local addressing model that both Tony and I have been envisioning (and > IMO the most compelling) is that of disjoint, overlapping addressing > spaces. The local network uses an internal addressing scheme for all > internal operations. When and if 'external' connectivity is applied (which > may be another 'local' network) the external space is also made available to > all nodes within the network that want external operation. Local nodes are > configured to prefer the internal addresses for internal use and the global > addresses for destinations that don't have a matching internal address. > > Note that the 'internal' addresses could be global unicast addresses or > 'local' addresses. Likewise the 'external' addresses, although these will > probably be global. The key issue is that the 'internal' addresses are > provider independent. The core address space of the network is independent > of the presence or absence of an ISP. > > For the 'zeroconf home' scenario, registration-free local addresses become > very attractive for the internal address space. They don't need to care > about ISPs or any external stuff, and unique address spaces can be easily > configured. And a RFC3484 implementation will favour them over global > addresses. > > Connecting two of these networks together is interesting. The assumption is > that the connection is via a 'local' channel - one that is (virtually) > 'inside' whatever mechanisms define the borders between the local address > spaces and the global space. However, what sort of 'merging' occurs is > harder to determine. > > Some scenarios: > > (1) Minimal merging: The two 'local' networks talk via a pair of gateways, > and all traffic for the other network's address space/s is directed to that > network's gateway. DNS and like services are similarly redirected. > > (2) Routing table merging: Full routing information is passed across the two > networks. Addresses are allocated independently by each network. > > (3) Full merging: The two networks become one network, sharing prefixes > originally owned by one or the other network across all nodes. > > Option 1 is probably easiest. Local addresses provide an advantage here > again, in that if both networks are using local addresses RFC3484 will cause > inter-network communications to favour the local addresses. > > The most interesting case in network merging occurs when the local addresses > are allocated by the routers, using the strategy described in > 'draft-white-auto-subnet-00' > (<ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/internet-drafts/draft-white-auto-subnet-00.txt>). > >From an address allocation perspective, only 'external' prefixes are > propagated - the internal addressing scheme is built into the routers. > Under this model, there is no need to propagate the internal prefixes - the > address spaces are already compatible. All that is required is to connect > the routes and propagate service information (such as DNS). External > prefixes still need to be propagated. > > -- > Andrew White > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > IETF IPv6 working group mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Administrative Requests: https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 > -------------------------------------------------------------------- -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Brian E Carpenter Distinguished Engineer, Internet Standards & Technology, IBM NEW ADDRESS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PLEASE UPDATE ADDRESS BOOK -------------------------------------------------------------------- IETF IPv6 working group mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Administrative Requests: https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 --------------------------------------------------------------------