Hi Havard

I believe it's worth opening the Pandora's box. I agree with Fred that things and 
usages have changed.

On top of the MANET based examples that Fred proposed, I have in mind an other 'Half 
and half' case. That's the concept on "Network in node" which is a basically a host 
with a network attached to it or inside it. Examples:

- A traffic dispatcher
- A PC with multiple Network addressable entities such as storage media
- A PC with multiple users or applications, each one with a addressable with different 
IP address from an "inner" network
- A mobile router (still shows as a Host on the roaming interface) acting as a bridge 
when at home
- A ND proxy that is not exposed as a router, eg a Home Network behind a Home Gateway.

I'm not sure if in Fred's term I'm introducing "HOST" vs "host", but it appears that 
the old paradigm of routers vs hosts seems limited for some applications that IPv6 
enables.

Pascal

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Havard Eidnes
> Sent: mardi 25 novembre 2003 15:29
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: "ROUTERS" vs. "routers"
> 
> Hm,
> 
> I hope I'm not the only one who find the choice of wording to be
> unfortunate.
> 
> From the 10km-high perspective, there should be other and more
> fundamental distinguishing marks than the prefix length of
> advertisments or more general protocol behaviour to draw the line
> between what has traditionally been named "hosts" and "routers".
> 
> I'll therefore give some pushback on introducing a subtle
> for-ipv6-only distinction between "ROUTERS" and "routers".
> 
> Regards,
> 
> - Håvard
> 
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