>From: Rao Satyanarayana-W60007 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: 2006/08/23 Wed PM 05:54:07 CDT
>To: Ralph Droms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Cc: "Durand, Alain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
        IETF IPv6 Mailing List <ipv6@ietf.org>
>Subject: RE: Prefix Delegation using ICMPv6

Satya,

You put this so much better than I have, I think. Thank you!

Tim
Rom 8:28

>Ralph,
>Implementation and test effort is always there whether it is a existing
>protocol or a new protocol to catch implementation specific bugs. Even
>if one licenses a particular implementation, there is always testing
>involved though the effort can be less focused on testing the licensed
>components but the integrated system. If the proposal has merit and
>looks appealing, implementations will come.
>
>What we would like to know now is are there any bugs in the proposal
>being specified? I think the questions should be is there merit in the
>proposal? Does it basically work? What needs to be modified for it to
>work? Our claim is that there are situations and configurations where
>DHCPv6 may not be enabled or available and hence PD process can not
>depend on dhcp protocol. If the PD mechanism can be run utilizing more
>basic and fundamental components of the ipv6 stack, why not? If it
>basically works, and if implementers believe that it is simpler and easy
>to implement and deploy, it will get used. It does not propose to
>replace the dhcpv6 based proposal.
>
>- Satya Rao
>Mobile Devices Technology Office
>Motorola
>Tel: 512-996-6781
>Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ralph Droms [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 5:31 PM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Cc: Durand, Alain; IETF IPv6 Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: Prefix Delegation using ICMPv6
>> 
>> Tim - The answer to your exact question is, of course, yes.  
>> But, in my opinion, that question is not the right starting 
>> point for our conversation.
>> 
>> A better question to start with, which we certainly ought to 
>> ask as members of an engineering organization like the IETF, 
>> is: "Is there a sufficiently large set of scenarios and use 
>> cases where the requirements cannot be met by DHCPv6 PD to 
>> warrant the investment of resources to design, specify, 
>> publish, implement and test an entirely new protocol or 
>> protocol extension?".
>> 
>> The IETF has spent far too much effort in defining 
>> theoretically possible protocols.
>> 
>> - Ralph
>> 
>> On Aug 23, 2006, at 5:59 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > [...]
>> > Do you believe that it is theoretically possible that 
>> DHCPv6 PD would 
>> > be "neither required nor desired"? It is here that I'd like 
>> to start 
>> > this portion of our conversation.
>> 
>> 
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