All it would mean is that the aviation industry that wanted its
"private" network would have to host a "root" DNS server for that
network and advise it's members to include it in their hints.  I don't
see that being a big issue. In fact it makes sense from a security
perspective.  

And again, with trivial ACL's the "private" network could be managed out
of PI/PA.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Sprunk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 9:53 AM
> To: Eliot Lear
> Cc: Thomas Narten; Mark Andrews; ipv6@ietf.org; Pekka Savola
> Subject: Re: draft-ietf-ipv6-ula-central-02.txt
> 
> Thus spake "Eliot Lear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Stephen Sprunk wrote:
> >> The supposed use case for ULA-C is large orgs who interconnect 
> >> privately with other large orgs.  If you _don't_ allow 
> ULA-Cs in the 
> >> global reverse DNS, then every org in the internetwork must hack 
> >> their local DNS servers to recognize every other org's reverse DNS 
> >> entries.  That is painful and unnecessary.
> >
> > To borrow your logic, if this space is truly private why 
> should this 
> > be an issue?
> 
> That hinges on the meaning of "private".  Imagine a private 
> internet for the aviation industry; there would be thousands 
> of players, each supposedly with their own ULA-C/G block.  
> Every player would need to hack their DNS servers to account 
> for every other player's RDNS settings, and any time someone 
> new joined or someone existing wanted to update their 
> settings, thousands of other operators would need to change 
> their hacks to keep things working. 
> The odds of that being successful in practice are so low 
> they're not worth considering.
> 
> >> There are operational concerns with putting ULA(-C) addresses in  
> >> forward DNS; nobody argues with that. However, putting ULA-C 
> >> addresses in reverse DNS harms nobody who can't reach 
> those addresses 
> >> yet greatly benefits those that can.
> >
> > The delegation must be maintained and occasionally updated. 
> Who does that?
> 
> Whoever is designated as the central authority.  It is 
> necessary for there to be a database to keep blocks unique, 
> and that database will need billing and contact information, 
> so the addition of a couple of NS entries for each block is 
> trivial.  All we're discussing now is whether that 
> information is exposed via the global DNS.
> 
> > At this point it is plain to see that ULA-C is nothing but 
> PI address 
> > space, because the IETF is in no position to enforce otherwise.  So 
> > please, let's just call it what it is.
> 
> Exactly.
> 
> S
> 
> Stephen Sprunk      "Those people who think they know everything
> CCIE #3723         are a great annoyance to those of us who do."
> K5SSS                                             --Isaac Asimov 
> 
> 
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