Brian Dickson wrote:
[..]
> If an ISP gets a /32, and gives out /48's, which they can do without
> requiring supporting documentation,
> and reserves space for each allocation (say a nibble), that leaves only
> 12 bits of "range", or 4096 customers.

You do realize that a /48 is *65536* /64's and as such there will be
only very view sites worldwide which will ever need more?

You also realize that these sites are already very large and can easily
justify another /48, either adjacent or not from their upstream address
provider, may that be a LIR or RIR.

> I dare say that there are a fair whack of ISPs with that many customers,
> who are most likely to get only
> a /32.

Please check http://www.sixxs.net/tools/grh/dfp/ it clearly shows that
there are today at 2x /19, 6x /20 and various other large blocks.

> Even *if* RIRs are reserving space for them adjacent to those original
> assignments, there is nothing that
> would stop anyone from announcing two adjacent /32's instead of a /31.
[..]

That is not a problem that the IETF or the RIR's can fix.

IETF define protocols, the RIRs provide address space based on those
specifications and how their members want them to be allocated.
ISPs use it, and they use it in any way they want.
See again above URL, but then /tools/grh/lg/ for a nice looking glass
showing you that various ISPs are already de-aggregating but also that
quite a number of ISPs are using the 'strict filter' set already as per
http://www.space.net/~gert/RIPE/ipv6-filters.html and thus are cutting
out all more specific announcements. Note also that GRH nicely colors
those in the looking glass when looking for 'bogons', though it doesn't
tag them as completely evil, just something which should not be there.

If this de-aggregation is going to cause too much entries (there are
only ~900 today!) then ISPs who will have problems with their routers
will start applying prefix filtering, taking those sub-allocs out of the
loop.

The real solution to your perceived routing problem is being discussed
on [EMAIL PROTECTED] The big problem though remains always that one will need
to have the information in as-good-as realtime to know where you have to
route your packet, as such you will most likely need a more or less full
table to do that, or at least a table of 'I talked to them before' kind
of prefixes.

Changing the distribution of address space won't solve this problem at
all though. As instead of a /48 being inserted in BGP from one ASN, they
will just insert a /64. The real thing that can avoid that is ISPs
filtering and the ones wanting to insert them not being able to pay
enough to convince ISPs that they should accept theirs.

Greets,
 Jeroen

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