Tony, Many thanks for amplifying my push to have AH a MUST. You point is well taken and one I had not though of.
Best Regards, Jeffrey Dunn Info Systems Eng., Lead MITRE Corporation. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Hain Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 8:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: ipv6@ietf.org Subject: RE: Security Requirements for IPv6 Node Req summary ESP == MUST && AH == MUST There is a major problem with ESP/NULL & firewalls, so AH has to be there. The crap about lack of an API as a reason to downgrade the requirement for both of these is nothing more than a concession to IETF politics, where 'we don't define APIs' was the mantra at the point in time this was played out before. You will never make progress if you constantly retreat in the face of resistance... Tony > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 12:15 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: ipv6@ietf.org > Subject: RE: Security Requirements for IPv6 Node Req summary > > Sorry, that was a cut & paste mistake. AH is a MAY. > > John > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: ext Vishwas Manral [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: 05 March, 2008 12:12 > >To: Loughney John (Nokia-OCTO/PaloAlto) > >Cc: ipv6@ietf.org > >Subject: Re: Security Requirements for IPv6 Node Req summary > > > >Hi John, > > > >RFC4301 states AH is optional. Is there a reason why we are > >making it a MUST be supported feature. Below quoting RFC4301: > > > >"IPsec implementations MUST support ESP and MAY > > support AH." > > > >Thanks, > >Vishwas > > > >On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 11:46 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Hi all, > >> > >> The RFC 4294-bis draft has the following requirement, which comes > >> from the initial RFC. > >> > >> 8.1. Basic Architecture > >> > >> Security Architecture for the Internet Protocol [RFC-4301] MUST > be > >> supported. > >> > >> 8.2. Security Protocols > >> > >> ESP [RFC-4303] MUST be supported. AH [RFC-4302] MUST be > >supported. > >> > >> We have had a lot of discussion that people basically feel > >that these > >> requirements are not applicable and should be moved to SHOULD. I > >> would say that there is rough WG Consensus on this. Do > >people feel > >> if there should be additional text to explain this? > >> > >> I suggest that the WG Chairs and our ADs discuss this with the > >> Security ADs to ensure that this is a reasonable consensus > >to adopt > >> - so that we do not run into issues during the eventual IETF/IESG > >> review. I am not sure that we can go much further in > >discussions in > >> the WG. > >> > >> Does anyone have comments on this approach? > >> > >> John > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > >> IETF IPv6 working group mailing list > >> ipv6@ietf.org > >> Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > IETF IPv6 working group mailing list > ipv6@ietf.org > Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 > -------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------- IETF IPv6 working group mailing list ipv6@ietf.org Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 -------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------- IETF IPv6 working group mailing list ipv6@ietf.org Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 --------------------------------------------------------------------