On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:13 PM, Ralph Droms <rdr...@cisco.com> wrote:
> My point is that "place with better information" and "best place from which
> to deliver information to the host" are not necessarily (although likely to
> be) the same...

agreed. though 'at my house' and 'at my office' are 2 different ends
of that spectrum (I suspect). So I suspect that 'routers' will soon
have 'mostly full' dhcpv6 servers in them...

-Chris

> On Nov 11, 2009, at 12:09 PM 11/11/09, Christopher Morrow wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:34 PM, Ralph Droms <rdr...@cisco.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> OK.
>>>
>>> I'll agree that the information about routing changes is available in the
>>> router.  Whether the router has all the information needed and the
>>> mechanisms to translate that routing information into policy changes for
>>> the
>>> hosts must also be considered.
>>
>> surely there will be hybrid scenarios where one side
>> (router/dhcp-server) or the other have 'better' (more) information. I
>> think that in the larger scheme, if you provision 'some information'
>> with dhcp/dhcpv6 you will continue to do that tomorrow.
>>
>> If there is a network event that triggers host-routing changes you
>> will have to have coordination between the host & router folks, just
>> as you do today. If you can have the dhcpv6 server ping it's clients
>> for an update, so much the better. (even so much better if that comes
>> in some 'secure' manner!)
>>
>> -chris
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 11, 2009, at 10:32 AM 11/11/09, Suresh Krishnan wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Ralph,
>>>>  I was just commenting that the addressing policy changes triggered by
>>>> routing changes are best initiated by the router and all the other
>>>> policy
>>>> changes are best initiated by the DHCP server. I was not commenting on
>>>> the
>>>> suitability/ease of use of the delivery mechanism(s) at all.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Suresh
>>>>
>>>> On 09-11-09 08:58 PM, Ralph Droms wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> In the discussion of IPv6 address selection , Dave Thaler asked me to
>>>>>  comment on this bullet from slide 10:
>>>>> * DHCP option
>>>>>  - Hard to kick policy reconfigure by a server.
>>>>> Not wanting to contribute to yet another iteration of the RA-vs-DHCP
>>>>>  debate, I'm responding through the mailing list.  DHCPv6 has an
>>>>>  explicit
>>>>> mechanism, required by RFC 3315, in which a server can  asynchronously
>>>>> trigger a DHCPv6 message exchange from the client.
>>>>> Suresh commented that the router might be a better source of updates
>>>>>  in
>>>>> some circumstances, when the selection policy is modified by  changes
>>>>> in the
>>>>> routing infrastructure as propagated by routing  protocols.  I haven't
>>>>> thought about that scenario and can't comment...
>>>>> - Ralph
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