In message <4bb783a3.3020...@redpill-linpro.com>, Tore Anderson writes: > Hi Mark, > > * Mark Andrews > > > You turn IPv6 on a service at a time. Turn it on for delay tolerent > > services. e.g. SMTP. Turn it of for services which try different > > servers quickly. e.g. DNS. Turn it on for the client side. > > Sure thing, I've already done some of those, but it won't really change > much. There's no real reason for a end-user to contact my SMTP or DNS > servers directly, as he will normally relay e-mail/DNS queries via his > own ISPs servers anyway. And the fact that all the workstations at my > office have native IPv6 connectivity doesn't have any effect on all the > broken end users in other networks.
Except it does, people saying we have IPv6 connectivity and it didn't break things will cause more people to turn on IPv6 as a production service which will disable the automatic transition mechanisms. > The problematic service is without question the web sites. > > > There may be few place to connect to now but the ratio of good to > > bad will get better as more people turn up IPv6 as a production > > service on the client side. > > Absolutely. I'm sure that at some point in the future there'll be more > end users able to connect to a dualstacked web site than there is end > users able to connect to a IPv4-only site. At that point you'll see > lots of IPv6 content showing up. No problem. > > However, when will that point in time be? Well we've had dual stack servers for years now so for us that point has long ago passed. We log bug reports when a service is not available over IPv6 as well as IPv4. > The way it's going right now > it seems to me that it will be well after IPv4 pool is exhausted, when > the IPv4 internet is starting really to crumble under CGNs and other > life-extending band-aids. I'm more impatient than that though, and > don't want to just sit around and wait until then. It appears other > content providers like Yahoo and Google don't either. But short of > resorting to DNS tricks, or attempting to persuade all the end users' > ISPs and/or software vendors to fix their problems, I really don't see > what else can be done. > > By the way I actively pursue the option of asking problematic networks > and software vendors to fix their problems. It's a very slow process, > though. Even when software patches are released, it takes lots of time > before a sufficient amount of end-users have applied them. > > Best regards, > -- > Tore Anderson > Redpill Linpro AS - http://www.redpill-linpro.com/ > Tel: +47 21 54 41 27 -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: ma...@isc.org -------------------------------------------------------------------- IETF IPv6 working group mailing list ipv6@ietf.org Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 --------------------------------------------------------------------
