Hi Barbara,

Thank you very much for your comment. I am glad to see that you agree with
that it would be more logical to do all prefix-related configuration in RA.
But yes, you are right that we need to prove what we have is insufficient or
broken before we change the existing implementation. I once thought this was
so obvious but it seems not. So I may need to spend some more time on this
before I can get back on this topic. 

Anyway, thanks to everyone that participated in this thread for the valuable
comments. The original intent of this thread is to solve a puzzle about
multiple prefix pools for different services. We finally came up with a
well-recognized DHCPv6 approach and a potential but pending RA approach for
the time being. So I am quite satisfied with this outcome for the time being
and I really appreciate the active and quick responses on this thread.
Thanks again!

Best regards,
Fortune

-----Original Message-----
From: STARK, BARBARA H (ATTLABS) [mailto:bs7...@att.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 10:49 PM
To: Fortune HUANG
Cc: ipv6@ietf.org
Subject: RE: Question about SLAAC: how the host determines the
prefixesallocated from different prefix pools

> Do you think that the service type of
> the prefix should be classified to the prefix related configuration or
not?
> If yes, do you agree that it should be carried in RA in the stateless
> case?

Nobody is disagreeing that *if* we could turn the clock back 10 years or
so and have a greenfield discussion about creating brand new IPv6
standards that this might be something to consider.

So, just to get past your question, let's say, for the sake of argument,
that we all agree 100% that it would be more logical (a prettier way of
doing things) to do all prefix-related configuration in RA. OK.

Here is what we are saying:
That is irrelevant. It is irrelevant that this would be a prettier way
of doing things. Solutions exist. They have been coded and are being
implemented. Hurdles for starting new standards work to change things
that are already out in the field and being used are different than the
hurdles for starting new standards where nothing exists.

The hurdle when doing greenfield standards is indeed to convince others
that what you propose is the most logical and efficient way of doing
things. The hurdle when trying to convince others to go to the pain,
effort, expense, suffering, and uncertainty of changing existing
implementations and deployments, is to prove that the existing
mechanisms are somehow insufficient or broken.

So, to summarize...
If you want to convince people to move forward with this proposal, you
need to stop trying to convince us that your solution is more logical
and inefficient. That's irrelevant, and we don't care. You need to
convince us that what we have is insufficient or broken.
Barbara



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