Thanks Tormod, these drivers seem to work fine with Sql 2000 using JRun tags
for Selects, Inserts and Deletes.  I'm a little concerned that Microsoft
still refers to them as beta though.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tormod Hystad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 12:39 AM
To: JRun-Talk
Subject: RE: IIS 4 dies, no memory leak: NT4SP6 + JRun 3.0


Test it with the free Microsoft Type 4 JDBC driver for MS SQl Server 2000:

http://www.microsoft.com/SQL/downloads/2000/jdbc.asp

Source code licenced from Merant, I believe, but packaged and supported as a
Microsoft product. It has reasonable performance, from the benchmarks I have
seen, only beaten by inet software's drivers.

- Tormod

-----Original Message-----
From: Fishwick, Randall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 25. oktober 2001 18:30
To: JRun-Talk
Subject: RE: IIS 4 dies, no memory leak: NT4SP6 + JRun 3.0


Lars,

It appears bug #26844 is related to the supplied JDBC drivers in
jrun_drivers.jar.  I was getting the following error using the updated
jrun_drivers.jar to access SQL Server 2000: "The cursor identifier value
provided (abcdef0) is not valid.", and Allaire's response is: "This problem
is logged as a bug # 27241. Please refer to next fix and use any other third
party JDBC driver for this CMP implementation till that time."  We have been
using Oracle's Type 4 drivers to access Oracle without problems using the
JRun Custom Tag Library.  Additionally, I am using the original
jrun_drivers.jar supplied with JRun 3.1 to access SQL Server with the Tag
Library without a problem.  So I'm wondering if using good third party JDBC
drivers would eliminate bug
#26844?

Randy

-----Original Message-----
From: lars [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 7:35 AM
To: JRun-Talk
Subject: RE: IIS 4 dies, no memory leak: NT4SP6 + JRun 3.0


Randall:

This is a documented (but as-yet unaddressed) bug with the
Allaire/Macromedia folks, #26844 according to the JRun forums.

Allaire JRun forum links:
http://forums.allaire.com/jrun/messageview.cfm?catid=69&threadid=208338 is
the first mention of the bug report -- sadly for us, Allaire/Macromedia
doesn't publish their bug lists, but no doubt they have their reasons.
http://forums.allaire.com/jrun/messageview.cfm?catid=66&threadid=227136
promises a fix "will be released soon" (as of Oct.23rd).

Searching the JRun forums for the bug number or "java.lang.OutOfMemoryError"
will turn up more references.

Also, I started a thread in this list September 13, asking whether anyone
had tried using JRun 3.1 with the custom tag library from JRun 3.0 (the
Allaire/Macromedia engineers said it was a bad idea).

The bug affects only use of the custom tag library for SQL queries -- I
presume you're connecting & doing your queries via the usual Java classes.

Laurence Middleton
code wrangler
ecentricarts inc.
416 644-5000 ext.225


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fishwick, Randall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 2:27 PM
> To: JRun-Talk
> Subject: RE: IIS 4 dies, no memory leak: NT4SP6 + JRun 3.0
>
>
> Lars,
>
> Your background info indicates  a "known issue" regarding INSERT & UPDATE
> queries using classes12.zip, but we've been running IIS 4 and 5 with 3.1
> JRun using that Oracle JDBC driver for a while without any problems doing
> inserts or updates.  Where is the problem documented?
>
> Thanks,
>    Randy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lars [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 10:29 AM
> To: JRun-Talk
> Subject: IIS 4 dies, no memory leak: NT4SP6 + JRun 3.0
>
>
> Hello, all.
>
> Our customer has a dual-processor Dell server running NT4 SP6
> with JRun 3.0
> installed. The server isn't used for anything except the site we
> built them
> plus a couple of dev versions which are not in use at present; all
> unnecessary services have been turned off. Java version is 1.30_02.
>
> The behaviour is that IIS stops without warning after hours or a few days.
> Task Manager shows no creep or spike in memory usage; there are no useful
> entries in either the NT logs or JRun's logs (which have had all
> the options
> turned on, to catch as much as possible).
>
> Other background: the JRun installation cannot be upgraded from 3.0 to 3.1
> because of the known issue in which the 3.1 custom taglib cannot perform
> INSERT & UPDATE queries thru the classes12.zip Oracle thin
> driver. (The live
> version of the site does not at present use the Oracle data source; that
> phase is due to roll out in a few weeks.)
> The JRun 3.0 installation is fully up-to-date with service packs.
>
> The customer has opened a ticket with Microsoft support and obtained a
> number of tools for monitoring and testing their server. One of them
> provided a dump which was excerpted to us as follows:
>
> =====
>
> There is a second chance dump:
> PID-196__Inetinfo.exe__Date_10-17-2001__Time_18-55-53PM__2nd_chanc
> e_access_v
> iolation__full.dmp
>
> Partial stack:
>
> 025ee694 77f76406 025ee6ac 025ee6c8 025ee6ac
> ntdll!RtlDispatchException+0x77
> 025ee790 77f97396 025ee858 025efc7c 025ee874
> ntdll!KiUserExceptionDispatcher+0xe
> 025ee7b4 77f8926b 025ee858 025efc7c 025ee874 ntdll!ExecuteHandler+0x26
> 025ee840 77f76406 025ee858 025ee874 025ee858
> ntdll!RtlDispatchException+0x77
> 025ee93c 77f97396 025eea04 025efc7c 025eea20
> ntdll!KiUserExceptionDispatcher+0xe
> 025ee960 77f8926b 025eea04 025efc7c 025eea20 ntdll!ExecuteHandler+0x26
> 025ee9ec 77f76406 025eea04 025eea20 025eea04
> ntdll!RtlDispatchException+0x77
> 025eeae8 100020e4 025efb98 00000009 10007314
> ntdll!KiUserExceptionDispatcher+0xe
> 10007314 50545448 00000000 48206e49 45707474 jrun!HttpFilterProc+0x814
> 5f4c4c41 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 0x50545448
>
> =====
>
> The conclusion of the MS person was that "E:\InetPub\scripts\jrun.dll is
> failing". (We don't know how to read the dump so can't agree or disagree.)
>
> Questions:
> - has anyone had similar experiences? The distinguishing feature:
> IIS stops
> but with no sign of increased memory use.
> - There was a newer jrun.dll posted in thread:
> http://forums.allaire.com/jrun/messageview.cfm?catid=69&threadid=216877
>     Can I replace the existing jrun.dll (from JRun 3.0) with this newer
> version, NOT upgrading JRun to 3.1?
> - Is there a known bug or issue I can track? (didn't find a close match to
> my customer's symptoms in the forums)
>
> -- Laurence
>
> Laurence Middleton
> code wrangler
> ecentricarts inc.
> 416 644-5000 ext.225
>
>



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