Sweet dreams Alexandre.... I can see you counting l2circuits now... I mean sheep... I mean l2circuits...
Aaron > On Jul 7, 2018, at 4:10 PM, Alexandre Guimaraes > <alexandre.guimar...@ascenty.com> wrote: > > Saku, > > Indeed. iBGP will be redundant and resilient, yes... with a cost, 90 seconds > (timers) of unavailability and more 1-3 minutes to get back online. I know, > we can change timers, bfd and so on... > > I used that before... but.... > > Not everyone have MX960, MX480 handling BGP in every part of the network, I > don’t have... I have QFX, hundreds of them. Now imagine in some MX, you have > 5/6 full routing table coming from upstream or peerings partners. Now > experience a flap between two of those MX exchanging full routing table for a > entire night.... > At some point, routing engines become angry and stop updating > routes(normally, MX have a baaad routing update rate). Doomsday have arrived! > > Everyone gets crazy, angry customers blaming, services inside vpls, vpls > getting loss bla bla bla.... > > Degraded fibers keep flapping lights on/off less than 30/90 seconds, no iBGP > alarms. No one knows what’s going on... > > As I said: VPLS save me from the dark(another Operation History: Once Upon > time: we used Portugal Telecom IP/MPLS solution), Now L2circuits now > enlightened my days. I can sleep! > > By the way, I still using VPLS/iBGP for point multipoint services. > > att > Alexandre > > Em 7 de jul de 2018, à(s) 17:16, Mark Tinka <mark.ti...@seacom.mu> escreveu: > >> >> >>> On 7/Jul/18 18:03, Alexandre Guimaraes wrote: >>> >>> Yes! But... Ex4550 we have 32 ports 1/10Gb, using expansion slots, more >>> 1/10Gb or 40Gb ports. L2circuits, QinQ L2TP, vlan translation, rtg >>> local-interface switching and so on... >>> >>> We eat 1/10Gb ports, ASR920 didn’t help us with that. >> >> Agreed - the ASR920 lacks port density. But, it does have the features, >> which come at a decent price. >> >> Depending on how things pan out with Broadcom in the few short years to >> come, I think this will be a particularly good area for Arista to pick all >> their competitors off, should they come right with their IP/MPLS software >> implementations. >> >> I feel the established/traditional equipment vendors are too busy producing >> half-baked Broadcom-based solutions just to have a "cheap" option to deal >> with customers considering Arista or white boxes; and focusing more on >> pushing their heavily-bloated "data centre" switches at massive $$ premiums. >> Slowly but surely, Arista (or anyone else copying their model) will rise to >> fill the gap. >> >> Mark. > _______________________________________________ > juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp _______________________________________________ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
