Uhm, I didn't say that only multiple thread lace is the only form worthy of the name, or that knit, crochet or any of the other laces are not 'lace'. Most people interpret the word 'lace' as being done with fine thread (crochet cotton and/or finer) or fine lace yarn, not something done with worsted or bulky weight yarn or even thicker. And to call something lace because it incorporates intentional holes is not completely correct either. If you do that then something like the webbing on a chair or bedframe could be called lace too, cause that also has 'intentional' holes. Would you call a hammock made of knotted rope lace? Most people won't. You would not call a fishing net lace either, yet both these last are 'netting' which is a form of lace. And I have done all those kinds of lace too, I have knit doilies in size 100 crochet cotton, and crocheted with fine threads, and just did my first try of tatting with YLI 100 silk thread. And I am knitting several Shetland Ring shawls, out of what is called Gossamer cashmere or Gossamer wool, and I have also woven lace on a loom, but if I weave something with heavy thread, even if it has intentional holes in it, I don't call it lace, but I might call it lacy. And if I knit a coat out of bulky weight yarn, and put a lace type pattern in it, most people would not say I was wearing a lace coat...but if I knit it with a fine lace yarn, or a fine cotton, people would say I was wearing a lace coat. Yes materials do have relevance in how people interpret a word, sure, not always, but most of the time. And even the intended use of the item has relevance in the use of the word.
*Marianne* Marianne Gallant Vernon, BC Canada m...@shaw.ca http://threadsnminis.blogspot.ca, https://www.facebook.com/GallantCreation/ On 23/07/2016 10:31 PM, Dan Brooks wrote: > As a quick note, I have knitted lace extensively and crocheted lace > extensively and tatted lace a bit, and now am embarking on bobbin lace. I do, > in fact, call each of those techniques "lace," rather than "lacy" anything. > > To assert that multiple thread lace is the only form worthy of the title is > just plain wrong. Knitted lace and similar single twisted fiber laces were > developed far earlier than multiple thread techniques. The term "lace" simply > means any design that incorporates the intentional inclusion of holes in a > pleasing or useful way. The material used is irrelevant, as is the technique > or scale. > > - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/