What do comrades have to say about the advance from utopian (west European) socialism, al la people in the tradition of Saint Simon, Babeuf and Owen- to scientific socialism: is there a link between the development of industrialisation and the development of Marx's ideas? Is the advance from utopian to scientific doctrine more identifiable with the influence of Hegelian dialectics on Marx and others? Or have I created a false dichotomy, with both being important?
I believe the creation of the working class in such an identifable "mass" (particularly in England) helped further the change from "all men are brothers" to "workers... unite" in the most direct way. Also, the IR made for the gradual end of socialists being those who pined for the past (Proudhon, et al)- and created the basis to dream of a future (Blanqui). ------------------------------------------- Macdonald Stainsby http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/rad-green http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/leninist-international "They are all Enron, we are all Argentina" --WEF protesters. ---- In the contradiction lies the hope. --Bertholt Brecht _______________________________________________ Leninist-International mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/leninist-international