On  3-Feb-04 at 18:02, Mark Hatch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> (this is slightly off topic and only has minimal technical content...)
> 
> Joseph and I had an offline discussion on the problems he observed with OM
> and mxaudio. The final resolution was that he only had a binary form of
> mxaudio and apparently that had been built with\Motif 1.2 (probably either
> lesstif originally or Motif 1.2 from Metrolink). And since Motif 2.1 is not
> upwards compatible with Motif 1.2 (lots of internal structures have been
> moved around and changed), there was no way that mxaudio would link with
> any version of OM 2.x (where x = 1 or 2).
> 
> Fortunately for him (and others), lesstif is apparently 100% binary
> compatible. So he is all set now. (BTW: we've seen this similar level of

I sort of know both, and I'd be afraid to say 100% compatible!! If it works, it
works, but "100% binary compatible" I wouldn't count on :( If you get into some
fringe cases, I wouldn't bet on it :(

> compatibility with our ViewKit C++ Motif framework. Hat's off to your
> effort!)
> 
> Since the availability of OM 2.x has basically eliminated all the
> commericial Motif suppliers on Linux, there is no supported Motif 1.2
> available. However, as shown by Joseph's experience, lesstif solves the
> problem nicely/
> 
> It might be worth noting this somewhere obvious on the lesstif website.
> Although I *knew* this was true, I had never intellectually realized that
> lesstif and OpenMotif now complement each other nicely. One takes care of
> Motif 1.2 compatibility, and the other handles Motif 2.x. Like many, I saw
> them as competitors, one under a true open license, but functionally less,
> and one that had a broken license that provided a newer functionality set.
> 
> Mark
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Joseph I. Davida" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mark Hatch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 3:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [Lesstif] Thanks!!
> 
> 
> > Hey Mark!
> > Dude, only binary was EVER distributed by xaudio.com.
> > After they removed it from their web site (or ftp site),
> > they forced all other mirrors to remove it as well.
> > The source was never made available as it contained
> > very likely prorietary algorithms.
> > So, No, I was NOT trying to build the application.
> > All I can tell you is the application works with
> > the Lesstiff libs and not with any of the
> > openmotif or open_motif libs.
> >
> > What you site as an incompatibility of motif 1.2 with
> > later motifs sounds plausible. What motif version is
> > the latest lesstif compatible with? As I indicated
> > in my email, I installed lesstif-0.93.36_1 and
> > it (mxaudio) worked. So, you are effectively saying that
> > lesstif-0.93.36_1 is binary compatible with motif 1.2?
> > I hope the lesstif development group does not do anything
> > to change that.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >
> > Mark Hatch wrote:
> > > Joe,
> > >
> > > The tar file included only the binaries? Was source available?
> > >
> > > If you were trying to build the application using the binaries you
> provided,
> > > then that explains a lot. The application was originally built against
> Motif
> > > 1.2. Lesstif is binary compatible with Motif 1.2. Hence, you were able
> to
> > > substitute lesstif for the original Motif 1.2 libraries. However, Motif
> 2.1
> > > is *not* binary compatible with Motif 1.2 based applications. Now that
> > > I think of it, the type conversion error is a pretty typical sympthom
> > > of a missmatch of Motifs.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Joseph I. Davida" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "Mark Hatch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 8:15 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Lesstif] Thanks!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>Well, the case in point is the old mxaudio program
> > >>which was originally available from xaudio.com until
> > >>they took it off their ftp server. I am attaching a
> > >>bzipped copy for you to try the same sequence of
> > >>installations of various motif libs.
> > >>Be sure you DO NOT HAVE LESSTIF installed when trying
> > >>the other motif libs.
> > >>
> > >>Cheers,
> > >>
> > >>Joe
> > >>
> > >>Mark Hatch wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>Joseph,
> > >>>
> > >>>I'm part of the OpenMotif support team. Would a sample case be
> available
> > >
> > > so
> > >
> > >>>that we could look into your problem? I suspect it related to OM being
> > >
> > > Motif
> > >
> > >>>2.1 and lesstif being 1.2, but a test case would help sort things out.
> > >>>
> > >>>Thanks!
> > >>>
> > >>>Mark
> > >>>
> > >>>----- Original Message ----- 
> > >>>From: "Joseph I. Davida" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>>Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 11:07 PM
> > >>>Subject: [Lesstif] Thanks!!
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>I have an old graphical audio application which
> > >>>>uses the motif libs. I had installed
> > >>>>openmotif-2.2.2 and that did not work. The
> > >>>>app I have kept belching out the message:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Warning: No type converter registered for 'String' to 'Proc'
> conversion.
> > >>>>X Error of failed request:  BadPixmap (invalid Pixmap parameter)
> > >>>> Major opcode of failed request:  55 (X_CreateGC)
> > >>>> Resource id in failed request:  0x1600077
> > >>>> Serial number of failed request:  1776
> > >>>> Current serial number in output stream:  1777
> > >>>>
> > >>>>So, I de-installed openmotif-2.2.2 and installed
> > >>>>open-motif-2.2.2_1
> > >>>>which did not help either.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>I deinstalled that and installed openmotif-2.1.30-1_IST,
> > >>>>and same problem.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Finally I installed lesstif-0.93.94 and that fixed
> > >>>>the problem.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Thanks to the lesstif development group.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Cheers,
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Joe
> > >>>>
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> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >
> > >
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