I somewhat agree with Thomas. I myself have been interested about freedom of software almost 15 years. This interests me a lot and I found myself numerous times spending plenty of hours in fsf.org just going deep in the rabbit hole. However, this can't be expected from a "non-tech" user, a.k.a the large part of the population, who indeed they'd be interested about regaining freedom but are greeted with a comprehensive and overwhelming amount of info.
I talk about fs to many of my peers and then I refer them to fsf.org to learn more. The result, lack of engagement and retention from my peers with the site. To me this isn't a problem of the user. My take is that, fsf.org conveys a lot of info, but not effectively. Less is more, even in the education field. Notice that I am not suggesting deleting info, but better summarize and display. I think fsf.org could benefit from better UX design. In contradiction with my text, for me the fsf's page is great. But again, I am a tech-interested person and don't represent the larger amount of internet users. ------- Original Message ------- On Thursday, May 12th, 2022 at 18:45, Thomas Lord - lord at basiscraft.com <awrlcxwigpuchsoowgvvs...@simplelogin.co> wrote: > Jean, > > > Thomas, you again spread Fears, Uncertainties and Doubts - FUD. I > > cannot take your statements seriously. > > > That's fine. > > I am curious if you think that the ~40 year old Free Software Movement > is doing an effective job of spreading the actual practice of software > freedom, and even the awareness of the option and what it means for > human freedom? > > And if I want to point busy city officials or others who > could benefit from changing their practices to some web page > that will help them help themselves with that, smoothly > and efficiently, what page would you suggest? What educational > materials will help someone like that? > > How will potential users find those materials if I say simply > "check out fsf.org"? > > What steps has FSF taken in recent decades that have helped > with this kind of problem? Is the "free software ladder" > concept meant to do this (that isn't my understanding of it > so far)? > > Similarly, say, a college student not in > computer science or anything close to that? or a > professor who may be tempted to require students > to use unfree software -- where can they quickly and > easily check for a better option? > > -t > > > > On 2022-05-11 20:44, Jean Louis wrote: > > > * Thomas Lord l...@basiscraft.com [2022-05-12 03:26]: > > > > > All the more reason why this is a valuable idea > > > for an organization whose primary purpose is spreading > > > education and real world use of libre software systems. > > > > > > Meanwhile, there is whatever the FSF is trying to do > > > which is entirely unclear from their web site. > > > > > > This reminds of a few years back when I wanted to point > > > city officials in Berkeley to some online resource where > > > they could quickly learn about software freedom and about > > > available software -- and I discovered that nothing on > > > the FSF web site was at all adequate to this. > > > > Thomas, you again spread Fears, Uncertainties and Doubts - FUD. I > > cannot take your statements seriously. > > > > https://www.fsf.org/ -- it is very clear what FSF does straight from > > their website. > > > > Jean > > > > Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: > > https://www.fsf.org/campaigns > > > > In support of Richard M. Stallman > > https://stallmansupport.org/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > libreplanet-discuss mailing list > > libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org > > https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss > > > _______________________________________________ > libreplanet-discuss mailing list > libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org > https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss _______________________________________________ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss