Funny this thing with words. The word stool meaning chair in english, you know
the swedish word for chair is 'stol' !

Cordialement / Vriendelijke Groeten / Best Regards / Med Vänliga Hälsningar
  Tore Agblad

   Volvo Information Technology
   Infrastructure Mainframe Design & Development
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From: Linux on 390 Port [linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Erik N Johnson 
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Subject: Re: OT (was Re: RHEL 5.4 Beta is out in the wild)

I would think the "F" word is most likely quite old indeed.  And it is
worth noting that in the UK and I believe Australia the word rutting
is used to mean the same activity with which most English speakers
commonly associate the "F" word.  Moreover, the German 'ficken' which
has precisely this meaning is clearly descended from a common root
word.  It seems to me likely (and this is based solely on my intuition
as a purely amateur philologist, so have your salt shaker handy) that
the word did not take on any type of connotation of vulgarity before
1066, when many Anglo-Saxon words became the speech of common people,
and unfit for polite company since, at that time, the English
aristocracy were largely replaced by French speaking Normans.  To this
day a stool (which shares a root with the Modern High German stuhl
meaning chair) is a sub-standard version of the more stately chair
(from the same root as the Modern French chaise) and although we use
words of Germanic descent for food animals while alive (cow from kuh)
on your plate they are known by their French equivalent (beef from
boeuf).  Just food for thought, and a pun to boot.

Erik Johnson
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 9:59 AM, David Grothe<d...@gcom.com> wrote:
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> Much earlier.  See http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=fuck
>
> Stephen Frazier wrote:
>> Note the USMC logo. The anchor chain is wrapped around the anchor. So,
>> all marines are always fouled up. ;-)
>> The use of the fouled up anchor as a symbol of the marines goes back to
>> at least the late 1700's. The term SNFU or SNAFU (I have seen it both
>> ways although the later is now the more common) may go back that far
>> also. My father told me that he first encountered the term SNFU as
>> "Situation Normal Fouled Up" when he joined the Navy in 1932. The other
>> "F" word would not have been used in 1700 as at that time it was a
>> device pulled by a farm horse to plant seeds. It didn't take on its
>> current meaning until some time in the 1800's. Could it be related to
>> "sowing wild oats"?
>>
>> How far OT do we want to go with this? :-)
>>
>> bruce.light...@its.ms.gov wrote:
>>> one more view -
>>> 3 of my great uncles were marines - 1 in 1918, WW1 in France. The
>>> other 2
>>> in the Pacific in WW2.
>>> All 3 agreed that the terms SNAFU and FUBAR were in general use by the
>>> enlisted Marines even before their time(s).
>>> Was the subject of several memorable conversations at family reunions
>>> where
>>> some of the "gentler" family members got offended and left the outdoor
>>> festivities to the "rougher" members - and us wide-eyed young boys.
>>> Was probably a similar saying in use in every military back to the
>>> Sumerian
>>> and pre-Confuscian days.
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Stephen Frazier
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