At the risk of being sucked into this flame war, I'll put in my two cents.
I do not hold with "davka" people. I don't think eating only non-kosher food
is a healthy thing for your soul. I also happen to think that when a large
group containing also people that cannot eat non-kosher is assembled, making
sure that the food is kosher is basic politness, and cannot be waved.
I can understand MosheZ on one point - this point is something called
"consumer boycott". Basically - I see a behaviour that I deem wrong. I
understand that this behaviour comes (like everything else) from financial
reasons (i.e. - the fear of all the people that will not buy from me if I
don't keep it kosher makes me go and make it kosher). I say "fine, I'll
create a counter pressure group", and I boycott places that have a kosher
certificate. Not because I have anything against kosher, or those places.
Just because I want those places to understand that they have something to
lose by doing what I see as giving in to blackmail (the fact that a place is
open on Sabbath, for instance, bears no relation whats'oever to the question
of whether the food is kosher. I have checked that with authorized people).
Three points I would like made clear at this stage:
A. This is not a consumer boycott I personally apply, just one I can
understand.
B. I don't think this applies in any way to a case in which the decision is
made for a large group of people, especially if it is known that this group
contains people who cannot eat non-kosher.
C. I understand that even MosheZ doesn't claim that the place should be
non-kosher, just that he will not attend under those circumstances. I am
sure we can all grow to appretiate MosheZ insistance on the matter he
believes in, but not change our decision as a result.
Just my ~8 agorout worth
Shachar
Gavrie Philipson wrote:
> Moshe Zadka wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 21 Aug 2000, Gavrie Philipson wrote:
> >
> > > Hmm... and what are your criteria for it "being kosher"?
> > > Is a certificate from the Rabbanut enough for you not to come
> >
> > Yes. I don't want a place with a certificate.
> > (In fact, a place with the conservative certificate is fine by me --
> > I just don't want a place with a Rbbanut certificate)
>
> Of course: The desire by some people to see a certificate that assures
> them the food meets certain rules is discriminatory and politically
> incorrect.
> But, your desire to eat only is a place *not* bearing such a certificate
> is not.
> It's only when *you* need to come toward the *other* side that
> discrimination starts.
>
> Gavrie.
>
> --
> Gavrie Philipson
> Netmor Applied Modeling Research Ltd.
>
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