Thanks for the suggestion.

It looks like it could become something quite nice in the future, but I installed it to find that it is a 0.1 release and far from being stable.

Might be worth keeping an eye on, assuming MS doesn't sue them to high heaven...


L

--On Friday, January 17, 2003 09:33:44 -0600 "Baeseman, Cliff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I have never tried this but take a look at this, it should be close
enough....

I do not know how mature it is, or even if it works but it does look about
as close
to xp as one can get.



http://www.xpde.com/modules.php?name=Screenshots




Cliff Baeseman


-----Original Message-----
From: Louis Sabet
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 1/17/03 8:45 AM
Subject: [Ltsp-discuss] over my dead body... [slightly OT]

Hi all,

I work for a small company whose long-standing staff have long adopted
an
over-my-dead-body attitude towards change.

At present our sales department is using windows on a daily basis, and
has
done so for many many years. Our sales department only use IE, Word,
Excel,
so having a dedicated machine each running around £400 of software is a
little wasteful.

LTSP would be a perfect, cost-effective replacement for this setup.

I have configured the server to my liking (i386-RH8, LTSP4), all seems
nice
and stable, and I have installed OpenOffice and Konqueror (KDE) which is

pretty much all they ever need to use. I have already checked whether
OpenOffice will open our existing word/excel documents, and it does so
quite happily.

My problem now is in finding an appropriate GUI. These users are all
trained for windows. We have no time for extensive retraining, and so I
need to find something as close to the windows look-n-feel as possible,
but
at the same time making sure that whatever I choose isn't going to be
bloated and resource-hungry (KDE/GNOME etc).

I have gone through various GUIs, and none of them really meet the
grade. I
have tried WindowMaker, BlackBox, Gnome, KDE, FVWM, FVWM95, and finally
FluxBox (which is a derivative of BlackBox), and with which I am
reasonably
happy, however I know for a fact that my users won't be (i.e. it meets
my
requirements, but not all of theirs).

The main windows-esque features my users will be looking for are:

Fonts - and lots of them. I've installed the windows fonts, but still it

doesn't look as "nice" as windows does - any suggestions here?
Alt-Tab - Fluxbox handles this nicely.
Task-bar - KDE/GNOME have this, but are too bloated and would involve
hardware upgrades which I would like to avoid if at all possible.
Fluxbox
has a task-bar sort-of, but only displays minimised windows. Our users
have
a tendancy to open all their millions of windows at once, and leave them

that way, flicking between them using the taskbar. With fluxbox they
would
have to resort to alt-tab which isn't anywhere near as convenient.

What I'm really interested in knowing is - what do people do in places
like
Internet Kiosks that run linux? Do they just use whatever standard
bloated
GUI comes with their distro? Or do they use some sort of customised GUI?

The other main reason I don't want to use KDE/GNOME is due to the fact
that
it opens up whole new realms of user-fiddlage which I'd like to avoid.

With Fluxbox/WindowMaker etc, I can customise each user's desktop using
a
single text file, remove their ability to access the shell, and let them

get on with their work without ever having to worry about them buggering
up
their settings for me to have to fix.

I'm really interested in peoples' comments/experiences here, as I can't
be
the first person in the world who has wanted/needed to convert a bunch
of
die-hard windows users to linux without having to resort to the likes of

KDE/GNOME.

Many thanks to all who respond!

L

--
Louis Sabet - IT Manager
http://www.mobiles.co.uk
http://www.gadgets.co.uk


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