I tried to listen, but hardly made it through the first two excerpts. The 
lutenist reminds 
me of all these classical guitarrists who show-off whith embarassingly romantic 
playing 
in slow movements and fast-forward in the vivid pieces. And the singer, oh 
well... 
I don't think I'm going to buy this CD.

Regards,

Stephan.

Am 22 Sep 2006 um 8:51 hat Howard Posner geschrieben:

> Here's a link to samples of the Sting Dowland CD:
> 
> http://www.wom.de/classic/detail/-/hnum/4504071/rk/classic/rsk/charts
> 
> Fascinating stuff.  There are spots where I have no idea what language
> he's singing in.  It kind of gives the impression that every syllable
> is a new challenge, encountered for the first time, and he's sort of
> guessing how to form the vowel (which is a remarkably long process in
> spots -- it reminds me of a Tibetan humi singer rolling the vowel
> around in search of the harmonic) and when to go the next consonant,
> as as he goes along.  Perhaps I'd hear less of the nuts and bolts and
> be more at home with the performance if I were hearing the complete
> performances instead of online excerpts.
> 
> On Friday, Sep 22, 2006, at 01:35 America/Los_Angeles, LGS-Europe
> wrote:
> 
> >> I prefer to look to the closest thing we have to a living serious
> >> musical culture - alternative rock music.
> >
> > I don't think rock has any serious influence on modern day hip
> > playing.
> 
> Oddly enough, I think Taruskin wrote in that same essay (if it's the
> one that was in Early Music a few years earlier) that Emma Kirkby's
> vocal style (or the vocal style that Kirkby had come to epitomize) had
> a lot to do with the singing of Joan Baez -- part of his meandering
> attempt to trace HIP to 20th-century influences rather than to
> historical ones.  Like many of Taruskin's thoughts, it's interesting
> but half-formed -- he doesn't ask why, if the vocal model is being
> taken from a 20th-century source, it's Baez instead of Elvis Presley,
> Frank Sinatra, Louis Armstrong, Mick Jagger, Jerry Lee Lewis or Jussi
> Bjoerling.  Once you ask that question, the obvious answer is that the
> singers are looking for a vocal approach that suits the music.
> 
> Baez was certainly an odd choice for Taruskin to pick as the vocal
> model for HIP, since her singing was always (at least in the 1960's,
> when she, and folk music generally, were current popular music) marked
> by a vibrato that was far more intense and persistent than any other
> pop singer I can think of.  I heard her a lot when I was a child and
> remember being put off by it.  I suspect Taruskin saw some similarity
> because Baez was the only non-classical singer who sounded anything
> like a classical soprano.
> 
> The notion that HIP was ever "non-emotional" is silly and unfair. 
> It's like saying that modern movie actors are unemotional because they
> avoid the sweeping movements and flailing arms of earlier stage or
> silent movie actors.  The scale and the gesture is smaller, but the
> emotional range is there.  In all the conversations I had with HIP
> performers in the 1980's, I never heard anyone say that emotion had to
> be removed from performance, and Stravinsky never came up. 
> 
> 
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