Hi Maria,
I think Anne would agree that iWork is certainly accessible for a VoiceOver
user. Perhaps, not completely if you are needing to do advanced tasks, but you
surely can use the application and Anne Robertson teaches VO with Pages.
Take Care
John Panarese
jpanar...@mac-access.net
On Jan 31, 2012, at 1:36 AM, Maria From Australia wrote:
> HI. thank you for the websites and all that good stuff. so i works is
> accessible?
>
> ta.
>
>
>
> Maria and my guide Karly email bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 31/01/2012, at 2:38 PM, John Panarese <jpanar...@mac-access.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi NMaria,
>> Vision Australia has podcasts on the Mac, as does Blind Cool Tech.
>> Additionally, you are welcome to check out my site,
>>
>> http://www.macfortheblind.com
>> and help yourself to everything I have up there.
>>
>> Office for the Mac is, unfortunately, not accessible to VoiceOver. The
>> menus can be read, but the content area for the text is not seen by
>> VoiceOver. Pages is the alternative for the Word Processor and, the iWork
>> suite, is the Apple answer to MS Office overall.
>>
>>
>> Take Care
>> John Panarese
>> jpanar...@mac-access.net
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 30, 2012, at 10:27 PM, Maria From Australia wrote:
>>
>>> HI.
>>>
>>> thanks for the comprehensive answers. that's super. there is a little
>>> flat screen i'm hoping to use with it. it's not very big and fairly
>>> portable. One more question. besides this list, are there websites and
>>> such where i can find tutorials for mac and voiceover ? I am a totally new
>>> user coming from a windows environment.
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>
>>>
>>> Maria and my guide Karly email bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On 31/01/2012, at 2:17 PM, John Panarese <jpanar...@mac-access.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> For me, that cable didn't work. I had thought it might, but,
>>>> unfortunately, I believe that is for a flat screen monitor.
>>>>
>>>> As for Maria's questions;
>>>>
>>>>> 1. can i use a standard usb keyboard with the mini? or can i use the
>>>>> apple keyboard i have for my
>>>>> If i use the apple keyboard how would i pare it? would i need sighted
>>>>> assistance?
>>>>
>>>> Answer; I use a USB keyboard with my Mini. However, you can use a
>>>> bluetooth keyboard as well. The setup is accessible. The only "trick" is
>>>> to make sure you can type the pass code on the keyboard when you are
>>>> prompted.
>>>>
>>>> 2. can i use a standard monitor with the mac mini?
>>>>
>>>> Answer; Yes, this won't be a problem. You might have to get an adaptor,
>>>> but I'm not sure.
>>>>> 3. what is the command to turn voiceover on so i can start using the
>>>>> computer?
>>>>> is there any setup, or is there a way to turn voiceover on when the
>>>>> computer is booted?
>>>>
>>>> Answer; Command F5 will toggle VoiceOver on. When you first get the Mini,
>>>> you will go through the initial setup. You will be asked if you want to
>>>> use VoiceOver and to use command-F5 to turn it on. Once VoiceOver is on,
>>>> it will be on each time you reboot or turn on the Mini again.
>>>>
>>>>> 4. what software do people use to broadcast on internet radio?
>>>>
>>>> Answer; I don't have much experience with this, though I think, Nice
>>>> Cast, is a program I have heard some folks use for this.
>>>>
>>>>> 5. do i need speakers or headphones or are they built in?
>>>>
>>>> Answer; The Mini has a very nice speaker as it is. You certainly can get
>>>> external speakers, but I use it with the one built in. I also use my
>>>> earphones that came with my iPhone when I need to do so.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Take Care
>>>> John Panarese
>>>> jpanar...@mac-access.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 30, 2012, at 8:50 PM, Maria From Australia wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> HI. am thinking of purchasing a new mac mini. I have a few questions
>>>>> though. if u would prefer to answer offlist my email address is at the
>>>>> bottom of this email.
>>>>> ok. here goes.
>>>>> 1. can i use a standard usb keyboard with the mini? or can i use the
>>>>> apple keyboard i have for my
>>>>> If i use the apple keyboard how would i pare it? would i need sighted
>>>>> assistance?
>>>>> 2. can i use a standard monitor with the mac mini?
>>>>> 3. what is the command to turn voiceover on so i can start using the
>>>>> computer?
>>>>> is there any setup, or is there a way to turn voiceover on when the
>>>>> computer is booted?
>>>>> 4. what software do people use to broadcast on internet radio?
>>>>>
>>>>> 5. do i need speakers or headphones or are they built in?
>>>>> I think that's about it. thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Maria and my guide Karly email bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On 31/01/2012, at 7:00 AM, Steve Holmes <steve.holme...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I wondered the same thing. I might actually try that this evening and
>>>>>> see what happens. That plug reminds me more of an USB connecter
>>>>>> however. Still anything's worth a try. I just don't wanna have to
>>>>>> shell out more bucs just fake out the Mini. I really think Apple
>>>>>> should fix this situation so that a monitor would not be required for
>>>>>> anything except for using the mac without VoiceOver.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/30/12, Diane Bomar <diane.ale...@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> For those having this problem, have you tried connecting the small
>>>>>>> monitor
>>>>>>> cable that comes with the Mac Mini? It might be a Thunderbolt cable, I
>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>> not sure, but, would be interested to know if just attaching the cable
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> work for you. I am not experiencing these problems.
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "matthew Dyer" <ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" <mac-access@mac-access.net>
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 10:46 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: voice over question.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Oh ok. I found a monitor for 20 bucks which I am waiting to be
>>>>>>>> shipped.
>>>>>>>> There is a device thatt will trick the mac mioni into thinking there is
>>>>>>>> one, but don't know what is called
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Matthew
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2012, at 7:55 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That's interesting. I asked several people in the Apple stores this
>>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> question and they probably thought it a crazy idea but once they
>>>>>>>>> realized
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I was gonna use VO, they didn't think there would be any problem with
>>>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>>>> Any ideas on how to "trick" the mini into seeing a monitor?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2012, at 4:44 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is probably your issue than. I know Apple support will say you
>>>>>>>>>> can run a Mini without a monitor, but there have been several
>>>>>>>>>> reports to
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the contrary, including my own personal experience. You need to use
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> monitor or trick the Mini into thinking it has a monitor connected.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>> John Panarese
>>>>>>>>>> jpanar...@mac-access.net
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2012, at 7:37 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Interesting question. No, I do not have a monitor connected. I
>>>>>>>>>>> went
>>>>>>>>>>> the cheap route here and chose to save $300 or so by not buying
>>>>>>>>>>> one. I
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> wouldn't think that should affect this but who knows. I think I
>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>> update the Apple tech support staff that I don't have a monitor
>>>>>>>>>>> connected. I would be quite interested in this issue for sure.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the possible idea.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2012, at 3:07 PM, Zachary Kline wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Steve,
>>>>>>>>>>>> This may seem an odd question, but do you have a monitor connected
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> your mac mini? I think I recall reading on this list that not
>>>>>>>>>>>> having
>>>>>>>>>>>> one can lead to a number of strange preference-saving issues.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Voiceover should indeed be turned on automatically, as it does on
>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>> MBP.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yours,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Zack.
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2012, at 3:03 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't exactly have this issue but I am having another issue
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> new mac mini. I have my login options set to start VO
>>>>>>>>>>>>> automatically
>>>>>>>>>>>>> at the login prompt and that part works fine. But after I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> complete
>>>>>>>>>>>>> login by entering my password, I then have to turn VO back on with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Command+F5 every time. I also confirm in system preferences that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> VO
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is indeed set on. Isn't VOsupposed to start up automatically
>>>>>>>>>>>>> after
>>>>>>>>>>>>> logging in? Apple tech support seems to be stumped on this one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 28, 2012, at 10:09 PM, Michael Fridey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hi guys is people having same problem as me I am finding my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> setting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in vo to speek greeting wen macbook loads up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is checked wen I shut down but wen i turn macbook on and it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not talk I go in and find the check box is unchecked.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cheers Michael.
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