Gosh, everything depends on a flash drive nowadays. Ah well, I'll buy one at some point and try it.
Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 17, 2015, at 2:12 AM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote: > > Hello Devin, > > I cannot speak to the Alex problem you are having as a great many things > depend upon the model of the computer you have, the amount of RAM, etc. > > However, what is extremely important to know is that you cannot (or rather > should not) attempt to delete a drive on which you are currently booted. > > In order to partition the internal drive, you must first be booted onto an > external one. > > Think of it like this, you cannot safely raise a house while standing in it's > living room. In order to raise a house, you must do so from the outside, > right? > > Therefore, in Brian's situation, he needs to boot to the install key, then > launch it's disk utility and proceed from there. > > As for you, if you do not have an install key, you will have to boot to an > external drive, then proceed from that position. Of course, you could create > an install key, if you so choose. > > Mark > > -----Original Message----- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Devin Prater > Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 11:53 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Clean Install and Rol Back to Yosemite has ruined computer > > Okay, I have a question then. I might try doing a clean install, maybe > that'll fix the Alex choppiness issue I've been having for years, although it > may just be a 4gig ram thing. So do I just go to the repair partition, where > it is possible to reformat and all that, and simply delete the main part of > the disk where all the files and documents and all are, and just reinstall > the system with that? Or is it more complex than that? I forgot how I used to > reinstall the system before, but not even that helped the Alex issue. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 17, 2015, at 1:42 AM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote: >> >> Hello Brian, >> >> I am so sorry that your experience has been this difficult. >> >> To be honest, I wanted to caution you about how to install Yosemite after >> having first upgraded to El Capitan. I did not, given that you were already >> on your proverbial way, as it were. I was hoping that all would be well but >> since it clearly is not, I will now post my recommendation. >> >> When I learned that you were attempting to roll back to Yosemite, I wanted >> to caution you that merely installing Yosemite, even after erasing your disk >> may not be completely successful. >> >> The only way, in my opinion, to get a truly clean install is to delete the >> entire partition of the internal drive before installing an OS. >> >> While I am not making any excuses for your experience, the truth of the >> matter is that your project is not as simple as it would appear. Therefore, >> you should not be too hard on yourself or on the operating system. >> >> Things work the way they work and it takes time to understand how it's all >> put together. The truth of the matter is that Apple provides the only OS, >> of which I am aware, in which we, blind and low vision, can be truly self >> supporting. That does not mean, however, that there is no learning curve. >> >> Having said all of this, were you to have asked before undertaking this >> project I would have recommended that you first learn how to use the Startup >> disk option located in the System Preferences area. Then I would have >> suggested that you explore the Disk Utilities application in order to >> familiarize yourself with its layout and how VoiceOver interacts with it. I >> would have advised you to attach a drive or two, to your Mac and practice >> formatting, partitioning and re-partitioning the practice drive. These >> skills are important, especially when dealing with a primary disk partition >> on an internal drive. >> >> Then, and only then, would I have recommended that you perform a complete >> fresh install after first having deleted the partition of the internal drive. >> >> As it stands, I hope you will not give up on this project as, like it or >> not, it is an excellent learning opportunity. >> >> In short, just try again. Keep trying until you get it right. >> >> When I was learning how to do these things, sometimes, I had to make the >> attempt as many as three times before I was successful. Each time through, >> however, I learned something new about both the OS and, more importantly, >> about myself. >> >> One more thing, just as a side note, what I and many others do is to install >> a program like Super Duper in order to clone the internal drive to an >> external one, before upgrading to a new OS. Then, should we decide to >> rollback, as it were, we only need to copy the cloned copy from the external >> drive back to the internal one. The cloned drive is also bootable. >> >> Hang in there and know that we're all here, ready to assist. >> >> Mark >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Fischler >> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 10:41 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Clean Install and Rol Back to Yosemite has ruined computer >> >> So much for a clean install fixing things. My computer is now utterly >> useless as VO will read for a few seconds then stop for 3 to 5 minutes then >> read for a few seconds and stop again making the computer a giant freaking >> paperweight. The funniest thing about all this is I am supposed to be at an >> expo tomorrow talking up Apple to blind people, well F that. I could never >> recommend Apple to someone after this experience.Not sure how having nothing >> on the computer could cause so many issues but I would have taken the crappy >> Crapitan to this as Crapitan was useable in places just not safari, this is >> now a pile of junk. 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