Hi, 1. I no longer have the Mailboxes table visible as outlined in the Favourites section of the original message. I have moved my important mailboxes into the Favourites bar and thus just need to press cmd-1, 2 or 3 depending on which one I wish to access. By pressing cmd-1, for example, this automatically accesses my desired mailbox and brings focus to the Messages Column. I then can use the up and down arrows to preview each message/conversation. Quick Nav is off for this process.
2. When I find a message/conversation that I'm interested in reading, I just press the return key. After some more playing around, I guess that the tab key will more or less do the same thing. I'm so used to holding down the VO keys that I may have errored in my explanation. When using the lef/right arrows in this case, you either need to hold down the VO keys or turn Quick Nav on for single key navigation. In either case, it's quite easy and quick to move through the conversations. I can press the Backspace key to delete the message I'm on and continue in the conversation or press cmd-w to close the entire conversation. I'm a throwback to the old MacOS's in the 80s and 90s and am somewhat stuck in my old ways so tend to use the return and cmd-w mode more often. In further testing, I noted the following: • if you press the return key to open the conversation, then you can use cmd-w to close it and take you back to the Messages Column. • if you use the tab key then you'll need to use shift-tab to take you back to the Messages Column. Using the cmd-w in this case will close the mail window totally. Pressing cmd with any of my numbers will bring it back though. Just a different way of doing things. Hope this clears up your confusion. Sorry to have caused you any. Later… On 2011-07-24, at 9:51 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > Ahem, please pardon my ignorance here, i feel totally confused at the moment. > I have the list with the various mailboxes, and then if i tab i get the table > with the messages in them. They are arranged in conversations, but it looks > like the old threads except that i've got numbers that indicates how many > mails there are in a convo. If i right arrow on a conversation, i get to see > the messages in the conversation, and if i either tab or vo+j i get to where > the messages are shown. Vo up and down arrow here just reads the message. I'm > a bit confused, i have to admit. Do i have the new layout? > /Krister > 24 jul 2011 kl. 16:07 skrev Chris Westbrook: > >> No, the preview pane just shows one individual message. I think he might >> have meant to say tab from the message list instead of enter. If I tab from >> the message list I get all the messages in a conversation and I just have to >> either hit vo+up and down arrow if quick nab is off or just up and down >> arrow if it is on. Left and right will work too. Hope this helps. >> On Jul 24, 2011, at 8:38 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >> >>> Ahem, this left and right arrow thingy doesn't seem to work properly for >>> me in conversations. I'm using the preview pane, should i do that? Are your >>> conversations always expanded? >>> /Krister >>> >>> 24 jul 2011 kl. 02:20 skrev Tim Kilburn: >>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> In playing with various things in Mail's new view, you may be interested >>>> in these ideas that I have found. They work for me and have sped up >>>> navigation in Mail considerably. You are welcome to use whatever works >>>> for you and ignore anything that doesn't fit your frame of mind. The two >>>> things I'll touch on here are use of the Favourites bar and Conversations. >>>> >>>> Favourites: >>>> >>>> • You can put your favourite Mailboxes into the Favourites bar by dragging >>>> and dropping them there. >>>> • The order they appear in the Favourites bar allows you to use the cmd >>>> key to quickly get to specific boxes. That is, the first item in the >>>> Favourite bar would be cmd-1, the second would be cmd-2 and so on. >>>> • When you drop something into the Favourites bar, it will land just after >>>> or to the right of the item you are focused on. >>>> • You can use this method to re-order items in the Favourites bar. >>>> • To remove an unwanted item from the Favourites bar, simply drag it off. >>>> That is, grab it and release it outside of the Favourites bar. I just >>>> drop it on the divider and its gone. >>>> • Now with minimal keystrokes, I can get between Mailboxes and right after >>>> I press cmd-1 for example, VO automatically brings focus to the Messages >>>> area where I can just use up and down arrows to navigate. >>>> • I also do not need the Mailboxes list shown either unless I wish to get >>>> to a less used Mailbox. It is easy to Show/Hide by pressing cmd-shift-m. >>>> >>>> Conversations: >>>> >>>> Not perfect yet but much easier for me using the following: >>>> >>>> • Arrow up or down and let VO announce the message and how many messages >>>> in the Conversation. >>>> • I just press return when I wish to read stuff in that Conversation. The >>>> problem is that it always reads the newest one first and suggestions to >>>> fix that haven't worked for me as I prefer my Messages Table to have the >>>> newest at the top and my Conversations to have the oldest at the top. >>>> • anyway, to get around this, I Stop Interacting with the Message content, >>>> then if I VO-left arrow through the messages in the Conversation, it does >>>> the trick. >>>> • If I press cmd-w, it closes the entire conversation. >>>> >>>> Hope this helps some of you. Any other ideas are welcome. >>>> >>>> Later… >>>> >>>> >>>> Tim Kilburn >>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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