I happen to have "pro" MD and CDR equipment. Now I really havent bothered to look into the issue, becuase Im mostly making mixes and thus HAVE to use analog inputs; I dont think Ive even seen a full digital mixer - at least not something that has a cross fader. I usually make the mix on MD and then download to CDR - since all the equipment is "pro" ive never cared to see what SCMS settings were... Anyway - I do recall some configurations settings so that I can 1 - follow canonical settings 2 - force to no copy 3 - force to one copy 4 - force to unlimited copy Im not sure of the details, but if anyone is really intersted, I'll look it up - Tascam CDR-1000 (no longer sold AFAIK) - Denon MD-2300R Anyway - the point of the post was to obtusely state my opinion of the whole SCMS issue - in that all this "I want a SCMS stripper" inquiry is kinda DUMB. What it seems is that people want an SCMS stripper that costs next to nothing. Pro level equipment in effect has a SCMS stripper built in. The cost of pro equipment is roughly twice that of consumer equipment. I have seen pro MD units for about $600 (Sony MD-11? - the neat 1U unit) Yeah - it might be possible to get a home unit for $150 and a "stripper" for $100 but why deal with all the "shady aspects", the pro stuff is legal to buy and own... oh - thats right we want to STEAL music.... hence the quest for low cost. So if thats your angle - go steal pro equipment? Sorry for the rant - I just find it silly that someone is going to NY to get an "theft" device when one is probably available at the local music shop (for enuff $$ of course) EWong ----------------------------------------------------------------- To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]