Reformating a hard drive does not erase everything, so to be on the safe
side I use Kill Disk. Kill Disk writes zeros on the entire drive,
removing the partitions and everything.
Although reformating a hard drive will probably erase most viruses, I am
told that there are viruses that get written in minute spaces between
the partitions, and reformating only erases the Windows partition.
The police have software that enables them to recover kiddie porn from a
reformated hard drive. Reformating doesn't wipe everything clean.
Mere possession of kiddie porn is a felony.
Some companies with defense contracts will require you to kill disk your
hard drive when you quit. They know that reformating does not erase the
whole memo and that there are programs out there that can recover data
from a formatted hard drive.
I use kill disk about once a year and install the new Ubuntu directly
from a new CD on a zero filled drive. The partition tools that come
with Linux distros aren't perfect.
I keep all of my files on a flash drive that is on my car keys (That's
why I will get so frantic if I ever lose my car keys, my wife has
another set of keys, but emails that came to me today are already on the
flash!
Ed Gorman wrote:
To start, you'll want to reformat the windows partition and reinstall,
the only guarranteed way to remove a virus, then install win/security
updates/antivirus/malware/programs (in that order). Every so often, to
avoid any problems caused by a virus destroying the antivirus software,
run clam from a linux live cd distro of your choice. The virus won't
load from the live cd if the hard drive is infected. When you run
antivirus scans to scan the hard drive from win32, you want to boot into
safe mode to avoid the virus from loading, then run a full scan. When
you are done, reboot into normal mode. For those versions of win32
w/system restore, make sure to turn it off before going into safe
mode/running the antivirus.
The main point here is the antivirus program, clam for instance, on a
live cd, is the virus on the hard drive will be unable to stop the
antivirus from finding it.
With VM (VMWare, Virtual Box, etc...) Install a win32 session and back
it up (I shouldn't have to mention this LOL). Then go ahead and install
as shown above. If you get something that totally trashes the win32
session, kill it and refresh from your back up.
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Mark Wallace <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
This virus hacks into anti-virus software. Anti-virus software runs
a full scan in a second and tells you there are no problems.
Ed Gorman wrote:
Virtutal Box is runs win32 pretty good. Lots of how-to's on the
web for creating one, especially on ubuntugeek.org
<http://ubuntugeek.org/> <http://ubuntugeek.org
<http://ubuntugeek.org/>>. I ran win7 rc1 nicely on 1gb ram,
never crashed. www.virtualbox.org <http://www.virtualbox.org/>
<http://www.virtualbox.org/>
Seeing a huge volume of infections since Jan 1st. Make sure all
security fixes are in place in win32, antivirus software up to
date, and use 2 or 3 different spyware detectors (make sure
malware bytes is one of them). Occassionally use a boot cd
w/clam to scan the windows pc if you still dual boot/other pc...
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Mark Wallace
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
wrote:
I am not familiar with a vm. They run too slow and choppy in
Wine.
My concern was more general as I don't duel boot.
John D. Mort wrote:
If the sysreq's are minimal on those old games, you could run
them in
a VM. Significantly fewer concerns over viruses then.
--
John D. Mort
http://john.mort.net <http://john.mort.net/>
<http://john.mort.net/>
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Mark Wallace
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
wrote:
I put Windows back into one system so that my son
could play
some old games
from his sister's youth and he picked up the same virus
twice in four weeks.
I won't let him go online in Windows.
I wonder if you are more vulnerable to windows viruses if
you duel boot
(because you are reaching across the partitions to get
things) or if you use
Wine (it might run a windows virus)
xe22 wrote:
Mark Wallace wrote:
And the beauty of Linux is that later, when
you hear
that everybody has
developed drivers and 64 bit edtions, you can
upgrade on a rainy afternoon
for free. Just be sure to back up our data on a
separate media.
--
Robert Mark Wallace
60 Delaware Road
Newburgh, New York 12550-3802
Telephone: (845) 566-0586
Absolutely. The Linux system turned out to be much
better and easier
than I expected when I first got into it. The
power is
awesome.
The majority does not know what they are missing.
Louis
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They told me that I needed to upgrade Windows. So I upgraded it to
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