My understanding is one end is set to bridge and the other end is set to
station.


Jon Paul Kelley
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-----Original Message-----
From: mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com
[mailto:mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of Chris Gotstein
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 11:33 AM
To: Mikrotik discussions
Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] [SPAM] - Re: WDS - Found word(s) list error in the
Text body

So do you set each end to Bridge?  Or is one end a Station WDS?

Bill Prince wrote:
> It's not well documented.   But when you set the type to "bridge" 
> instead of "ap bridge", it becomes a PTP link.  The simple bridge type 
> only allows one client.
> 
> Which brings up something that I was wondering about.
> 
> If you set up a MT with, say 3 or 4 virtual APs all set for "bridge", 
> with different SSIDs, do you then get 3 or 4 PTP links?
> 
> What would be the disadvantage of doing this?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Bill Prince
> Skyline Broadband Service
> (a division of Coastal Sierra)
> 650-917-9279
> 
> 
> 
> Randy Cosby wrote:
>> Can you clarify how to use MT's "PtP"?  What if you're pushing vlans 
>> across it?  DHCP?
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>  (10 megs) ~ AP WDS ~ STN WDS -- Desktop PC
>>> If this is the case, don't do it.  Just switch into backhaul mode,
>>> Tranzeo's PxP, MT's PtP or anything but WDS please.
>>>
>>> Can't do this if your AP WDS is ptmp.
>>>
>>> I do agree, backhaul as much as you can and save as much spectrum as you
>>> can.  The reason I brought this up recently was a "backhaul" made to a
>>> repeater site giving me flak with the whole arp proxy problem.  Kind 
>>> of hard
>>> to work with 6 devices (5 CPE w/NAT plus customer router) with 1 MAC 
>>> some
>>> times.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
>>> --- Albert Einstein
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 8:23 PM, Damian Wallace <dwall...@tranzeo.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  
>>>> Your forgetting cycles for clients in this model, and the first come
>>>> first serve nature of WiFi.  If you just have two radios talking, don't
>>>> use WDS, use a backhaul method.  WDS leads to anger, anger leads to the
>>>> dark side.
>>>>
>>>> (10 megs) ~ AP WDS ~ STN WDS -- Desktop PC
>>>> If this is the case, don't do it.  Just switch into backhaul mode,
>>>> Tranzeo's PxP, MT's PtP or anything but WDS please.
>>>>
>>>> CPE(S) <--> AP WDS -<--> AP WDS <-wire-> PC X 1
>>>> 5 Megs for CPEs, 5 for PC.         Best use of WDS.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, it's never just one, that's why you put in the repeater, to
>>>> get the 4 houses beyond it.
>>>> CPE(S) <--> AP WDS -<--> AP WDS <-wireless->CPE(s)
>>>> 2.5 or less, shared.
>>>>
>>>> Better solution, more radios, but still cuts throughput
>>>> CPE(S) <--> AP WDS -<--> AP WDS <-wire->AP<-->CPE(s)
>>>> 5/5
>>>>
>>>> But you could also do
>>>> CPE(S) <--> AP -<-wire-> PtP <-->Ptp<--> AP<-->CPE(s)
>>>> And not have any cut in throughput.
>>>>
>>>> And just for ug factor, What happens when the WDS is used "just this 
>>>> one
>>>> time" :-)
>>>>
>>>> CPE(S) <--> AP WDS -<--> AP WDS <--> AP WDS<-->Feed
>>>>                |            |          |
>>>>                CPEs         CPEs                 CPEs
>>>>                |
>>>>                AP WDS
>>>>                |
>>>>                AP WDS
>>>>                |
>>>>                CPES
>>>>
>>>> WDS used to be the poor mans repeater, but you can set up a pair of 5
>>>> GHz backhauls for 200 bucks now, and not have to deal with this.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com
>>>> [mailto:mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:57 PM
>>>> To: Mikrotik discussions
>>>> Subject: [SPAM] - Re: [Mikrotik] WDS - Found word(s) list error in the
>>>> Text body
>>>>
>>>> >From my understanding...
>>>>
>>>> If you have
>>>>
>>>> (10 megs) ~ AP WDS ~ AP WDS ~ WLAN/LAPTOP
>>>>
>>>> The PC gets 5 megs
>>>>
>>>> If you have
>>>>
>>>> (10 megs) ~ AP WDS ~ STN WDS -- Desktop PC
>>>>
>>>> The PC gets 10 megs
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>
>>>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
>>>> --- Albert Einstein
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Robert Andrews
>>>> <rob...@avantwireless.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   
>>>>> Damian,
>>>>>   I'm unclear about what you wrote.   Does WDS lose 1/2 bandwidth with
>>>>>       
>>>> 2
>>>>   
>>>>> WDS clients off one AP or, as I thought, with every set of repeaters
>>>>> off one WDS AP?
>>>>>
>>>>> Robert
>>>>>
>>>>> Damian Wallace wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     
>>>>>> What happens inside WDS is worse than that.  WDS is great for some
>>>>>> Enterprise apps, where you want to get coverage to the boardroom and
>>>>>> you don't care if the throughput isn't great and gets pulled down by
>>>>>> the peer, just that you have coverage.  WDS is also good for
>>>>>> connecting two sites, BOTH of which don't have a lot of traffic.  WDS
>>>>>>         slows all of the peers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The process is the same for Client and AP.  This is gross
>>>>>> simplification so you can nitpick the details but the idea is here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) Divide transmission cycles into equal groups of number of peers
>>>>>> plus 1, for the radio itself.  So if I have 1 peer, n=2.  If I have 3
>>>>>>         peers, then n=4.
>>>>>> 2) Every 1/n cycles, I send to data from the radio, then I send the
>>>>>> data to the other radios in sequence.  Some traffic is also sent
>>>>>>         
>>>> broadcast.
>>>>   
>>>>>> If there is an error on a WDS transmission, all of the packets are
>>>>>> usually resent.  3) The effect of WDS is to lower your throughput to
>>>>>> 1/2^(n-1)  under
>>>>>> load.  If I have a single peer, then my throughput is 1/2.  With 3
>>>>>> peers, 1/8th.  3) WDS doesn't need the MAC address to route the RF
>>>>>> traffic, so it is transparent, if it is WDS-AP to WDS-AP.
>>>>>> WDS is a poorly designed hack that sort of works for many cases.  But
>>>>>>         it has many tradeoffs, the key one being throughout.  
>>>>>> Backhaul modes
>>>>>> and meshing protocols add smarts to the routing of the traffic, and
>>>>>> that is why they generally are transparent and fast.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com
>>>>>> [mailto:mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Spott
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 6:44 AM
>>>>>> To: Mikrotik discussions
>>>>>> Subject: [Spam Bayesian - ] - Re: [Mikrotik] Strange DUDE problem -
>>>>>> Bayesian Filter detected spam
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Think of it like a HUB. All ports (APs) send and receive the same
>>>>>> traffic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ryan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Josh Luthman
>>>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>> WDS cuts bandwidth in half because it "syncs" with the AP.  Not sure
>>>>>>>           is ap wds and station wds act the same though.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12/2/09, Chris Gotstein <ch...@uplogon.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>> I keep hearing that it cuts your bandwidth in half on the AP side.
>>>>>>>> Seems everyone (vendors) i talk to tells me to stay away from it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Robert Andrews wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>> But the ends do justify the means...   WDS is how wireless should
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>  worked in the first place..    Anyone have a reason that it wasn't
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> done
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>  this way in the first place?
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>> On 12/01/2009 10:30 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>> Yesh.   I just went through this a few weeks ago; all remotely.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>  hassle is that when you switch the Tranzeo to AP mode, you need to
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>  get into it again to enter the MAC address of the "partner".  But
>>>>>>> if you
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>> then switch the MT into client mode, it will let you get back
>>>>>>>>>> into the Tranzeo.  Then finish up the MAC address rigmarole.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>  Finally, go back to the MT and switch it to WDS as previously
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> described.
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>  Note that you may have to "hunt" for the SSID on the Tranzeo if
>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>> never been an AP before.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bill Prince
>>>>>>>>>> Skyline Broadband Service
>>>>>>>>>> (a division of Coastal Sierra)
>>>>>>>>>> 650-917-9279
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ryan Spott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>> You can... if you are careful. :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Do the tranzeo first, and then hope everything connects when do
>>>>>>>>>>> you setup the Mtik. :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ryan
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 9:52 PM, Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Aww damn I can't do it remotely can I? :(
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/2/09, Robert Andrews <rob...@avantwireless.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In WDS (not extended proprietary WDS like some vendors have),
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       BOTH devices are in AP mode.  That's 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> why you don't see WDS on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>> the tranzeo
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>   till you switch it to AP.   Both devices will get the mac
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>> address
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>   of the
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>> other radio.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/01/2009 08:53 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MT AP and Tranzeo CPE - reverse that.  I have WDS on my AP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>> already.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>   On 12/1/09, Ryan Spott<rsp...@cspott.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On the Tranzeo:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Wireless Settings ->  Wireless Mode: Access Point 2.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apply
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>   3. WDS (this is now visible) 4. Enter AP MAC Address 1 (this would
>>>>>>>           be
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the MAC address of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  ie:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0000006300F6)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. Apply
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On the Mikrotik (no laughing all you CLI junkies, I can kick
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           butt on a Cisco... just not an 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mtik) 1. Interface 2. Click
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Plus button and choose WDS 3. Under the WDS tab of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> window that pops up choose the master interface
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>> appropriately.
>>>>   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. Under the WDS tab of the window that pops up enter the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>   address
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tranzeo in 00:00:00 format.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. Add this new interface to the bridge group that your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>   interface is in.
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That should be it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ryan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TR6 I think.  I know it has an external 24dbi grid.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/1/09, D. Ryan Spott<rsp...@cspott.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What model Tranzeo are you running?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ryan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 1, 2009, at 5:04 PM, Josh Luthman<
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>              wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How can I do WDS?  Where is the option?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/1/09, Ryan Spott<rsp...@cspott.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can do WDS mode.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have this running on 2 poor-mans-repeaters right now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ryan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My tranzeo?  There is no "bridge mode" so I'm not sure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what you're referring to.  It is in infrastructure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
>>>> mode.
>>>>   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>    I can't do WDS/PxP mode
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>  that
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   requires
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a Tranzeo AP (my AP is Mikrotik).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sources."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>    --- Albert Einstein
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Carl A jeptha <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wispli...@airnet.ca>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This Tranzeo is in bridge mode?????
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have a Good Day now,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carl A Jeptha
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.airnet.ca
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Office Phone: 1-877-534-0021 ext 206 Office Hours:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Never used any agents.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am trying to document these customers behind this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tranzeo CPE (it's a small repeater) and the arp proxy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                         makes it 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one bit more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> difficult.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Does anyone know how the Dude can give me the correct MAC if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make a device with the right IP?  It obviously isn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                         
>>>> simple ARP.
>>>>   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                         sources."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- Albert Einstein
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Carl A jeptha <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wispli...@airnet.ca>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have found that the Dude Server has no problem
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                           
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>     Tranzeo's in
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bridge
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  mode. The "Agent" on the Ap's has a problem with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tranzeo's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in Router mode.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have a Good Day now,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carl A Jeptha
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 1-877-534-0021
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ext 206 Office Hours: 9:00am
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - 5:00pm skype cajeptha
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WDS mode or PTP mode (PxP mode on wireless
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> settings)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                             
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>     requires
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Tranzeo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  AP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as well.  Does not work with any other AP.  Stupid
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 802.11.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                           
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>     What is odd to me is that Ubnt AirOS (and obviously
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CPEs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik APs can do this.  Any idea why?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sources."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>    --- Albert Einstein
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Bill Prince<
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> part...@skylinebroadbandservice.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's SOP in 802.11.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To not obfuscate the MAC addresses behind a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tranzeo, you need to turn on PTP mode and/or use
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                               
>>>> WDS.
>>>>   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The key is "transparent bridge", and box-stock
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 802.11 devices do not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  transparent bridge.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Prince
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skyline Broadband Service (a division of Coastal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sierra)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 650-917-9279
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tranzeo has a problem with proxy arp - everything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> behind it is the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MAC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  of the Tranzeo.   Might be related.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/18/09, Richard Hatherill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jr.<ri...@callrich.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I could never get dude to work properly past a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> particular backhaul
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> network.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have 10 Mikrotik links on the other side of a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tr5a24 bridge / backhaul.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just replaced the tr5a24's with a mikrotik
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> backhaul
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                                 
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>      weeks ago,
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All 10 of the Mikrotik boxes on the other side
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                                 
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>  100%
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     reporting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dude now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Before the replacement 1-5 of the mik boxes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  report
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                                 
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>  up/
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     down
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conditions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all through the day.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now all is well. Nothing down in 2 weeks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rich Hatherill
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cnywireless
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Carl A jeptha"<wispli...@airnet.ca>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 7:44 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "Mikrotik discussions"<
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                                 
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>      Subject: [Mikrotik] Strange DUDE problem
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have restarted my DUDE program for monitoring
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> purposes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But now seem to have a new issue with Tranzeo's.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When the Dude agent in a subnet does a scan for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  devices
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                                 
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>      (discovery)
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will attach all the tranzeo mac addresses to a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> single
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tranzeo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     radio????
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have a Good Day now,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carl A Jeptha
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1-877-534-0021
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>      ext 206 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikro
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> t
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ik
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   RouterOS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20091118/f5
>>>>>>> b1
>>>>>>> 8036/attachment.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>          _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikro
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> t
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ik
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   RouterOS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikroti
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> k
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                             
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>     Mikrotik
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RouterOS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                             
>>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20091201/f7
>>>>>>> 95
>>>>>>> 5e4e/attachment.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>        _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                           
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>     Mikrotik
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RouterOS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                             
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                           
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>>>>>>> 91
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>      _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                         
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>     Mikrotik
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RouterOS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                         
>>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20091201/cf
>>>>>>> 7a
>>>>>>> f91d/attachment.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related to Mikrotik RouterOS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                       
>>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20091201/92
>>>>>>> 26
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                       
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>     to
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   RouterOS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML
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>>>>>>> 7e
>>>>>>> 5678/attachment.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   RouterOS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20091201/45
>>>>>>> fc
>>>>>>> c3d2/attachment.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   RouterOS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sources."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>    --- Albert Einstein
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>    Mikrotik RouterOS
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               Mikrotik
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RouterOS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>            --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sources."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>   --- Albert Einstein
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>   RouterOS
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> 7a
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>   RouterOS
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>> RouterOS
>>>>>>>>>>>>    --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
>>>>>>>>>>>> --- Albert Einstein
>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik RouterOS
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>  _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to
>>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik RouterOS
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list
>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to
>>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik RouterOS
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list
>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com
>>>>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to
>>>>>>>>> Mikrotik
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>  RouterOS
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>> Chris Gotstein
>>>>>>>> Sr Network Engineer
>>>>>>>> UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
>>>>>>>> 500 N Stephenson Ave
>>>>>>>> Iron Mountain, MI 49801
>>>>>>>> Phone: 906-774-4847
>>>>>>>> Fax: 906-774-0335
>>>>>>>> ch...@uplogon.com
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list
>>>>>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com
>>>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> RouterOS
>>>>>>>    --
>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
>>>>>>> --- Albert Einstein
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list
>>>>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com
>>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik
>>>>>>> RouterOS
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list
>>>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com
>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik
>>>>>> RouterOS _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list
>>>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com
>>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik
>>>>>> RouterOS
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Mikrotik mailing list
>>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com
>>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik
>>>>>
>>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik
>>>>> RouterOS
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>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik
>>>>
>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik
>>>> RouterOS
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Mikrotik mailing list
>>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com
>>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik
>>>>
>>>> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik
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>>> RouterOS
>>>   
>>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik
> 
> Visit http://blog.butchevans.com/ for tutorials related to Mikrotik 
> RouterOS

-- 
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Sr Network Engineer
UP Logon/Computer Connection UP
500 N Stephenson Ave
Iron Mountain, MI 49801
Phone: 906-774-4847
Fax: 906-774-0335
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